Re-registering a Restored Vehicle
Re-registering a Restored Vehicle
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oilydan

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2,030 posts

301 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Hi, I have a bike that I'm thinking of restoring, it's my Father's old BSA.

Been off the road at least since the early 80's, assume there are no documents but I do have the old registration number.

What are the odds, once restored, of getting it legally on the road, with the old number, just as it was?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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oilydan said:
Hi, I have a bike that I'm thinking of restoring, it's my Father's old BSA.

Been off the road at least since the early 80's, assume there are no documents but I do have the old registration number.

What are the odds, once restored, of getting it legally on the road, with the old number, just as it was?
Does it show up on https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ ?

If so, then it's still on the DVLA record, so you just need apply for a new V5C.
If not, then you need to get as much documentary evidence as you can, including plenty of pre-restoration photos and any old photos, to prove THAT bike and THAT plate belong together.

If the plate was sold off it, then you've got no hope.

oilydan

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301 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Sounds promising. I'll see if I can get the plate number but I doubt it is on their system.

Should not be too hard to prove that the plate and bike go together, the rusty plate is on the bike still, held on with rusted bolts! I might even have a picture of it being used in the 70's!

mikeveal

5,139 posts

280 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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If it was scrapped and needs re-registering, you'll be able to re-register it with an age related plate. One from the same year as the original. But unless you paid to keep the original plate on retention, you will not be able to get the original plate back.

If it was SORNed, then the reg is still valid.

If it wasn't SORNed or scrapped, who knows...

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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mikeveal said:
If it was SORNed, then the reg is still valid.
It's been off the road since the '80s. It doesn't need SORNing, never has needed SORNing.

DBSV8

5,958 posts

268 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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thanks for the link

mines showing last taxed 30 sept 1985
its not on a sorn as it didn't need to be when it went into storage

Slidingpillar

761 posts

166 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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While there would be a chance DVLA have sold the plate, they probably haven't. As already said, gather up your proof and go for it. You might get the numberplate back on a non-transferable basic, but I can't imagine that would be a problem.

If the OPs family is remotely normal, I'd very much doubt anything was done deliberately with the V5, but it's just got mislaid and disappeared from sight.

Don't expect DVLA to be quick though, I sorted out an error on an existing V5 that was also present on the brown continuation log book and it took me 3 months!

mikeveal

5,139 posts

280 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
mikeveal said:
If it was SORNed, then the reg is still valid.
It's been off the road since the '80s. It doesn't need SORNing, never has needed SORNing.
You live and learn. I wasn't aware that there was an exemption. Ta for that.

oilydan

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Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Slidingpillar said:
If the OPs family is remotely normal....
No, not normal at all silly

But, for the purposes of this inquiry, yes. A divorce, 30 years and a few house moves means that all documentation is long gone.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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mikeveal said:
TooMany2cvs said:
mikeveal said:
If it was SORNed, then the reg is still valid.
It's been off the road since the '80s. It doesn't need SORNing, never has needed SORNing.
You live and learn. I wasn't aware that there was an exemption. Ta for that.
Not so much an exemption, as stuff that hasn't been taxed or changed keeper since before SORN came in in the late '90s...

Even the "or changed keeper" is a bit flexible - I've got one that I've bought since SORN, last MOT 1990, but DVLA seem utterly disinterested in SORNing - I've got a current-format V5C for it.

Slidingpillar

761 posts

166 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
Even the "or changed keeper" is a bit flexible - I've got one that I've bought since SORN, last MOT 1990, but DVLA seem utterly disinterested in SORNing - I've got a current-format V5C for it.
Of course, they get more money if they can 'fine' you...

oilydan

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2,030 posts

301 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Turns out my Father is not so mental after-all; he still has the registration documents!

john2443

6,549 posts

241 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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oilydan said:
Turns out my Father is not so mental after-all; he still has the registration documents!
Easy peasy then - restore it, MOT, tax, insurance and you're off! No other hoops to jump through.

Hooli

32,278 posts

230 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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john2443 said:
oilydan said:
Turns out my Father is not so mental after-all; he still has the registration documents!
Easy peasy then - restore it, MOT, tax, insurance and you're off! No other hoops to jump through.
Depends, if it's pre 1960? then it doesn't even need a MOT. Probably needs swapping to historic tax too, but that's pretty straight forwards I believe.

oilydan

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Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Perhaps a bike licence might also be in order? getmecoat

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

162 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Owner's club can be very useful if there are hitches with the DVLA. Be careful, mature Brit bikes are addictive, they all need rescuing. M21 in a tunnel with manual control of ignition timing and mixture can frighten TVR owners.