NIP Camervan on bridge 88 in a 70 .. 3 points?

[Jonny TVR]

Plymouth is terrible for cameravans .. will this be 3 points fixed penalty?

[Jonny TVR]

Noticed the offence was on the 13/6 and just got it this morning 29/6 and letter dated the 26/6. Isn't there a 14 day rule on notice?

[HantsRat]

It was posted on 26th. The 13th day.

[HantsRat]

And yes will be 3 points + £100 fine.

[Cat]

HantsRat said:

It was posted on 26th. The 13th day.

The law requires that a NIP be served within 14 days, not sent within 14 days. In the case of 1st class post a NIP is presumed to have been served 2 working days after it was posted unless the contrary is proved. If the OP can show the NIP was posted on the 13th day then he may be able to show it wasn't served in time.

Cat

[Jonny TVR]

Cat said:

The law requires that a NIP be served within 14 days, not sent within 14 days. In the case of 1st class post a NIP is presumed to have been served 2 working days after it was posted unless the contrary is proved. If the OP can show the NIP was posted on the 13th day then he may be able to show it wasn't served in time.

Cat

The letter was dated the 26th so the 13the day and the envelop says it was posted on the Friday 26th.

[Jonny TVR]

HantsRat said:

And yes will be 3 points + £100 fine.

Why does it say on the chart 70 to 79 fixed, doesn't seem to show where the 88 mph comes in

[Cat]

Jonny TVR said:

The letter was dated the 26th so the 13the day and the envelop says it was posted on the Friday 26th.

I should have said that he 14 day rule only applies to the initial NIP to the RK. If you are not on the V5 or the car has recently changed hands the late receipt by you may not be relevant.

Cat

[Jonny TVR]

Cat said:

I should have said that he 14 day rule only applies to the initial NIP to the RK. If you are not on the V5 or the car has recently changed hands the late receipt by you may not be relevant.

Cat

Ah .. its a lease car so would have gone to them originally as they own it.

[HantsRat]

Jonny TVR said:

Why does it say on the chart 70 to 79 fixed, doesn't seem to show where the 88 mph comes in

70 to 79 = no action. 79 - 86 = speed course. 86 - 96 = 3 points, 100 fine. 96+ = Court.

[Jonny TVR]

HantsRat said:

70 to 79 = no action. 79 - 86 = speed course. 86 - 96 = 3 points, 100 fine. 96+ = Court.

Thanks HR. Surprised of the first two to 86. So you can avoid points all the way up to 86, is that really true in all cases? I also thought that from 90 to 99 it was 6 points

[HantsRat]

Jonny TVR said:

Thanks HR. Surprised of the first two to 86. So you can avoid points all the way up to 86

They don't have to offer you the course. It just means you are eligible. Also, you can only go on the course once. If caught again, it's points & fine 79 to 96. 96+ will be higher fine and more points at court.

[lbc]

Jonny TVR said:

I also thought that from 90 to 99 it was 6 points

I think it used to be 4-5 points at that speed many years ago, as I once got 5 points for 93 in a NSL dual carriageway.

Now days with the 3 points, it's best to keep below 79 to avoid points,
or don't go above 95 to get best value from your possible 3 points.

[Jonny TVR]

HantsRat said:

They don't have to offer you the course. It just means you are eligible. Also, you can only go on the course once. If caught again, it's points & fine 79 to 96. 96+ will be higher fine and more points at court.

Thanks HR. Based on this will have a total of 9 points so will have to keen to the 70 to 79 bracket for the next few years!

[aw51 121565]

A driver can only go on a SAC once every three years as a rule.

There is an exception, though, with Wiltshire (IIRC?) being outside the "national scheme" so you could 'plan' to do an SAC there once every three years as well as having the option of one every three years (if you don't go too fast ) elsewhere in England & Wales .