Drunk guy damaged bike, what can I expect...
Drunk guy damaged bike, what can I expect...
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mx5tom

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573 posts

203 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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So I came back to my motorbike on Thursday afternoon to find a note left on there saying that someone had sat on it, pretended to ride it and lost their balance. They've dropped the bike and broken the gear shifter and gear linkage and then tried to do a runner.

Someone saw all this happening and called the police, left their details and a description of the (apparently drunk/stoned) guy.

I've contacted the police since and they don't seem to have followed this up other than writing down the details from the initial call.

Now, usually I'd assume I had absolutely no chance of anything coming of this. Random drunk guy in the middle of Cardiff, never going to find him, etc. Except that one of the other witnesses recognised him. I have multiple sets of people who have talked to the police and given a full description of the guy, a photo of him and a full name. The bike was parked directly in front of a council CCTV camera and so I could probably get the footage as well if required.

We're really not talking about a great deal of money here, probably a bit more than £100. It's still £100 I shouldn't have to pay!

So, does anyone with any experience of this kind of situation know what I can expect from the police?

ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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So, this thread isn't going to go well

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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mx5tom said:
So, does anyone with any experience of this kind of situation know what I can expect from the police?
<£100-worth of time.

I'd expect them to follow up on the name, but if they deny everything and there's no clear photographic evidence, then there's really not much they can do.

Greendubber

15,367 posts

233 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Well its criminal damage so you should be given a crime number. That will then be allocated to an officer to investigate but it can take a few days for that to happen.

Have you been given a crime number?

If not ask for one, if the guy is traceable and there's witnesses and CCTV showing it the police shouldn't have any problems sorting it out and if he is elligable they might be able to get him to pay for the repairs.

markiii

4,330 posts

224 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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get the name, address, cctv footage and take him to small claims court

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

209 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Greendubber said:
Well its criminal damage so you should be given a crime number. That will then be allocated to an officer to investigate but it can take a few days for that to happen.

Have you been given a crime number?

If not ask for one, if the guy is traceable and there's witnesses and CCTV showing it the police shouldn't have any problems sorting it out and if he is elligable they might be able to get him to pay for the repairs.
Even if he is cautioned I thought there was no legal mechanism to recover the cost of the damage. I wing mirror damaged by a biker years ago he punched it and he was cautioned for criminal damage and police told him to pay for the damage but he never did.

Greendubber

15,367 posts

233 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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jbsportstech said:
Even if he is cautioned I thought there was no legal mechanism to recover the cost of the damage. I wing mirror damaged by a biker years ago he punched it and he was cautioned for criminal damage and police told him to pay for the damage but he never did.
Restoritive justice or 'community resolutions' are a fairly recent thing as are conditional cautions.


rufusgti

2,573 posts

222 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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Where in Cardiff was the bike parked.
I came back to my bike on its side before, left in Cardiff city centre. . Another friends bike was pushed over against a 2 yr old range rover.
Cardiff attracts all kinds of knobhead, coming here trying to live out some kind of "hangover movie" on a weekend. It's pretty civilised during the week.

Jasandjules

72,640 posts

259 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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jbsportstech said:
Even if he is cautioned I thought there was no legal mechanism to recover the cost of the damage. I wing mirror damaged by a biker years ago he punched it and he was cautioned for criminal damage and police told him to pay for the damage but he never did.
Civil Evidence Act can assist you.

wc98

12,763 posts

170 months

Sunday 5th July 2015
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if you have the blokes address go to his house and ask him to pay. i had something similar with a young kid who deliberately pushed over my brand new fireblade. parents had no problem paying for the damage which amounted to over 400 quid.(new engine casing was required).