Legality of Parking Enforcement Stickers

[NotSoSure]

Hi,

We have a problem with some persistently bad parking in our resi development - it's my M5 in the photo and this guy keeps parking inches from the drivers door. Having caught him in the act yesterday it appears he's doing it to 'teach me a lesson', although i'm not sure what the lesson is...



I have found these stickers are available as a deterrent in the UK:

http://www.puresafety.co.uk/parking-control-sticke...

Can anyone comment on the legality of placing them on the offenders window?

Thanks.

[PurpleMoonlight]

Why not just reverse park instead?

[kiethton]

He seems a bit off...

IIRC they're perfectly fine to use, actually I was walking back from whitecross street (city) on Friday lunchtime and saw 2 builders scraping some very very sticky stickers from their windows and windscreen with wallpaper scrapers and chisels after abandoning their van in an active service road....

They had absolutely ruined the glass just by doing the small bit I could see and were cursing like good-un's

[matchmaker]

How does the user of the first lockup get access with that penis parked there?

[TooMany2cvs]

NotSoSure said:

I have found these stickers are available as a deterrent in the UK:

http://www.puresafety.co.uk/parking-control-sticke...

Can anyone comment on the legality of placing them on the offenders window?

Criminal Damage, if the glue is strong enough to make removal difficult?

There's also the small detail that parking there, like that, isn't necessarily "illegal".

What do the signs on the wall behind the 407 say? Is it, perhaps, his lockup?

[anonymous-user]

NotSoSure said:

Having caught him in the act yesterday it appears he's doing it to 'teach me a lesson', although i'm not sure what the lesson is...

Did you try asking him? Are you supposed/permitted to be parking there?

[NotSoSure]

Thanks for the replies,

Just to clarify, it's his garage hence no one really minded him parking in front of the 'no parking' signs.

But now he's started to park further along the fence and purposely block doors etc.

Sometimes we do reverse park, sometimes we don't. We did think it was 'accidental' and haven't paid much attention to it, until yesterday when he told us he was doing it to be obstructive.

I did google the legality of the stickers and it seems pretty inconclusive. I noted the 'criminal damage' comment, but can't find anything to confirm it either way, does anyone know for sure?!

[Countdown]

Did he say WHY he was being obstructive? Have you upset him in some way?

[TooMany2cvs]

Countdown said:

Did he say WHY he was being obstructive? Have you upset him in some way?

He probably thinks that you're restricting him from having easy, straight access to his garage door.

Are there parking spaces marked?
Is there anywhere else that you can park?

[NotSoSure]

charltjr said:

Did you try asking him? Are you supposed/permitted to be parking there?

My wife spotted him parking and asked him to park a few feet back so she could open the door, he started saying it's his right to park were he likes and was teaching us a lesson!

We both live in the development, so it's not like i'm parking on his drive or anything.

[TooMany2cvs]

NotSoSure said:

My wife spotted him parking and asked him to park a few feet back so she could open the door, he started saying it's his right to park were he likes and was teaching us a lesson!

Yep, definitely a case of "Well, you're blocking my (garage) door, so I'm going to block your (driver's) door."

[NotSoSure]

TooMany2cvs said:

He probably thinks that you're restricting him from having easy, straight access to his garage door.

Are there parking spaces marked?
Is there anywhere else that you can park?

No marked spaces, nothing allocated - we're the youngest residents and we park towards the back so the OAPs have less to walk.

His garage doesn't get used, but we leave plenty of space on the off chance he decides to use it - as shown in the photo.

No idea why he's chosen to be confrontational, but the couple downstairs heard it and mentioned to my wife afterwards that they were glad someone had stood up to him as he has a reputation for being a bully.

[calibrax]

Next time you park, make sure you are close enought to his garage that he can't do that.

[TooMany2cvs]

NotSoSure said:

but we leave plenty of space on the off chance he decides to use it - as shown in the photo.

I'm not convinced I'd call that "plenty of space" - and he clearly doesn't think it counts...

Your call. You can escalate it (even by continuing as before, you'll be escalating it), or you can just park somewhere else and let him get on with being a self-important muppet in peace. You're the one who has to live near to him... I know what I'd be doing.

[Countdown]

TooMany2cvs said:

Yep, definitely a case of "Well, you're blocking my (garage) door, so I'm going to block your (driver's) door."

OP appears to be miles (well, nearly 2x the length of a 407) away from the garage door. I'd be tempted to reverse park and park closer to his garage.

To look at it another way, I'm guessing the "No Parking" signs are there to stop access to the lock ups being blocked. OP is not parked in front of those signs. 407Man seems to be behaving like a right tit.

[NotSoSure]

calibrax said:

Next time you park, make sure you are close enought to his garage that he can't do that.

That was my first thought, but he's an old guy that only uses his car once a week, has nothing better to do and would probably retaliate in some way.

After considering the purchase of a £500 snotter to park there, I decided that the parking stickers were a better idea - hence the question about the legality.

TooMany2cvs said:

Yep, definitely a case of "Well, you're blocking my (garage) door, so I'm going to block your (driver's) door."

You're right, but It seems unwarranted (especially as the garage isn't used). When my wife asked him to move the car a little so she could open the door, he told her to climb through the passenger door instead!

[Red Devil]

TooMany2cvs said:

Countdown said:

Did he say WHY he was being obstructive? Have you upset him in some way?

He probably thinks that you're restricting him from having easy, straight access to his garage door.

If he can't succeed in accessing his garage with the OP's car parked as in the photo, how on earth does he manage to get into a parking space out in the wider world? Makes you wonder how he passed the DSA test. People of his ilk shouldn't be permitted to have a full licence.

NotSoSure said:

Sometimes we do reverse park, sometimes we don't.

Make it your habit to reverse park, then his pathetic juvenile behaviour will be negated. It will mean you having to pull forward to let any passengers get in but that's hardly likely to make the world stop spinning.

NotSoSure said:

No idea why he's chosen to be confrontational, but the couple downstairs heard it and mentioned to my wife afterwards that they were glad someone had stood up to him as he has a reputation for being a bully.

Because confrontation is part of a bully's MO. It is a cover for their own inadequacies and makes them feel powerful/in control. Wouldn't be surprised if he is lacking in the gentleman's sausage department.

You already have a possible ally in the couple you mention. May be worth asking around if has had a run-in with others in the development. A collective approach might work. It's much harder to face down a group of people acting together than one or two isolated individuals.

[anonymous-user]

Well there you go, in his mind you're preventing him from having an easy run to his garage should he want to use it and he's reacting like a complete tit.

If I were you I sure as hell wouldn't be sticking anything to his car, if he's half the tt he appears to be it's not going to end well. You have an M5, he has a stty old 407. Who's got more to lose here?

[elanfan]

Obstruction is an offence, deliberate obstruction is actually arrestable. Find the legislation put it in a letter to him and put copied to blah blah Police station, any recurrences will result in him being reported and photographic evidence obtained. Hopefully enough to make him back off.

If not just block him in and be out when he comes knocking. Two can play at his game!

Edited by elanfan on Sunday 12th July 18:11

[crossy67]

I'd be letting his tyres down to "teach him a lesson".