York's mystery cyclist

[anonymous-user]

What is going on here then?

Is it just a 'freeman of the land' type bit of nonsens?

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/13383032.Mystery_c...

[S10GTA]

Paper said:

He was released on bail to appear for a trial over the alleged cycling offence on September 7.

Right. So they don't know who he is yet they released him....chances of him turning up?

[scarble]

Perhaps he is "known to the police" as the saying goes.
Not sure if freeman nutter or just a chancer.

[daytona365]

The man, aged in his fifties, was stopped by PCSOs in Acomb for cycling on the pavement...........Sounds about right. How about the countless teenage thugs cycling on pavements or worse ?

[Boosted LS1]

I didn't think pcso's have the powers to 'detain you' if you refused to provide your name? The cyclist must have cooperated long enough for the real police to arrive.

[ging84]

tax payers money being put to good use as ever

[Hackney]

ging84 said:

tax payers money being put to good use as ever

Yeah, those pesky police, attempting to prosecute people for committing an offence.
Where will this madness end?

[daytona365]

You know what he means, the same as I do.

[Mk3Spitfire]

ging84 said:

tax payers money being put to good use as ever

You seem to have a lot to say on these things.

What should they do then?

PCSO stops someone for an offence. Ok, minor, but still an offence. Cyclist decides to play silly buggers. Pcso lets him go. Cyclist thinks, "hang on, I'm onto something here." Next time he tries a little shoplifting. Low value, but same MO. Where do the police draw the line then?

[QBee]

The cyclists the really irritate me are those who insist on riding their bikes on the road in towns, often two abreast, even when it is twisty, hilly and narrow, frustrating drivers and putting themselves in danger.......when the council has spent thousands of our money putting in a combined cycle track and footpath not six feet to their left.

WHY?

[Hackney]

QBee said:

The cyclists the really irritate me are those who insist on riding their bikes on the road in towns, often two abreast, even when it is twisty, hilly and narrow, frustrating drivers and putting themselves in danger.......when the council has spent thousands of our money putting in a combined cycle track and footpath not six feet to their left.

WHY?

This? Again?

[Hackney]

daytona365 said:

You know what he means, the same as I do.

Go on then, enlighten me.

[ging84]

Mk3Spitfire said:

You seem to have a lot to say on these things.

What should they do then?

PCSO stops someone for an offence. Ok, minor, but still an offence. Cyclist decides to play silly buggers. Pcso lets him go. Cyclist thinks, "hang on, I'm onto something here." Next time he tries a little shoplifting. Low value, but same MO. Where do the police draw the line then?

Did you actually read the story?
He's already spent a night locked up, that is hardly getting away with it, when the usual penalty is a £50 fine. To let him go they must have been satisfied he wasn't wanted and would have no doubt taken his prints and his dna. They could have just told him to fk off, instead of going through the process of putting him front of a magistrate, bailing him and setting a date for trial in a couple of months time.

[Mk3Spitfire]

ging84 said:

Mk3Spitfire said:

You seem to have a lot to say on these things.

What should they do then?

PCSO stops someone for an offence. Ok, minor, but still an offence. Cyclist decides to play silly buggers. Pcso lets him go. Cyclist thinks, "hang on, I'm onto something here." Next time he tries a little shoplifting. Low value, but same MO. Where do the police draw the line then?

Did you actually read the story?
He's already spent a night locked up, that is hardly getting away with it, when the usual penalty is a £50 fine. To let him go they must have been satisfied he wasn't wanted and would have no doubt taken his prints and his dna. They could have just told him to fk off, instead of going through the process of putting him front of a magistrate, bailing him and setting a date for trial in a couple of months time.

Ah I see. The "Ging84 fk off" method of disposal. I hadn't thought of that.

For some people a night in the cell is nothing. Anyway, your initial comment was "a waste of taxpayers money" or some similar cliche. My question was, how would you do it differently. Which you failed to answer. Mine was a genuine question, but one you seem unable to answer.

[Retroman]

Cyclists cycling on pavements is illegal as stated. So is driving at 1mph over the speed limit.
Thankfully police have guidelines for both so that a common sense approach can be used.

From the guidance i read, cycling is permitted on pavements if there is a danger from cycling on the road (i.e road is busy / fast moving traffic) and the cyclist shows consideration for pedestrians (i.e gives them right of way)

QBee said:

The cyclists the really irritate me are those who insist on riding their bikes on the road in towns, often two abreast, even when it is twisty, hilly and narrow, frustrating drivers and putting themselves in danger.......when the council has spent thousands of our money putting in a combined cycle track and footpath not six feet to their left.

WHY?

Cyclists cycling two abreast should be easier the vast majority of the time than 1 in front of the other as you travel a shorter distance to get past them as shown here.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wBjPU43Sd8k/UHSjy2xPx8I/...

Dedicated cycle tracks beside roads are usually poorly maintained. Full of wet leaves, loose stones, broken glass etc.

Shared cycle paths with pedestrians are hit and miss from my experience. You often get idiots saying you can't cycle there because they didn't see or don't understand the shared use signs, or you get pedestrians that fail to let you past even when you ring the bell half a dozen times or they moan you're going too fast even though you're doing about 10mph

Not always with the things stated above, but it happens quite often.

[oyster]

QBee said:

The cyclists the really irritate me are those who insist on riding their bikes on the road in towns, often two abreast, even when it is twisty, hilly and narrow, frustrating drivers and putting themselves in danger.......when the council has spent thousands of our money putting in a combined cycle track and footpath not six feet to their left.

WHY?

Which town are you thinking of specifically? Can you link to Google street view?

[covboy]

How did the Police know he was 54 ?

[gruffalo]

It happens here at weekend very often causing quite long queues especially a bit further along where the road narrows quite a bit.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.585899,-0.725423...

[Eclassy]

Hackney said:

Yeah, those pesky police, attempting to prosecute people for committing an offence.
Where will this madness end?

Damn! my little man must be a hardened criminal. He has been cycling on pavements for about 2 years now. He even crashed into a lamp post just last week...throw in a riding without due care and attention charge. Like we have been told many times on here by BiB, people who committ crimes like breaking the speed limit and riding on pavements are more likely to go on and committ more serious crimes. I worry for my sons future.

[BGarside]

Considering most drivers seem to be happy enough spending hours sitting in traffic jams created by other cars, without flipping out and becoming aggressive, I can't understand why waiting a few seconds to overtake the odd cyclist is a big deal. Surely it's much easier to pass a bike travelling at 10-20mph than a dawdling car?

Oh, and riding two abreast is of course not illegal and is usually the only way two cyclists can communicate, rather like a driver speaking to the front seat passenger of a car.

As for cycle paths, they are usually constructed to no proper design standard, are unswept and unmaintained and often stop to give way at every side road and junction, so are frequently worse than useless...