Speeding NIP timescales - 3 months to be notified
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Brother has just received a NIP this morning for a speeding offence that happened on 4th June in the Lake District. Letter is dated 1st Sept.
Car is a company lease car - does this mean that all timelimits are irrelevant?
Even going by 14 days to notify the owner, and the owner having 28 days to reply with the driver, that would still be mid July that the police would have been notified who the driver was?
Has he any get-out clause here?
Car is a company lease car - does this mean that all timelimits are irrelevant?
Even going by 14 days to notify the owner, and the owner having 28 days to reply with the driver, that would still be mid July that the police would have been notified who the driver was?
Has he any get-out clause here?
Craigie said:
Car is a company lease car - does this mean that all timelimits are irrelevant?
No, they're still required to serve the initial NIP on the vehicle's RK within 14 days.Other than the 6 month period within which proceedings must be commenced, subsequent notices are not subject to any requirements of time.
The police only have to serve one NIP and that is on the registered keeper. Cumbria will serve that with a S172 request to seek the driver. The NIP must reach the keeper by day 14 after the offence.
Any subsequent copy of the NIP is not required only the S172 is relevant. There are no timescales for service of a S172?but the speeding offence must be notified to a court within 6 months.
Your brother needs to provide the information that is within his power to identify the driver to the police.
Any subsequent copy of the NIP is not required only the S172 is relevant. There are no timescales for service of a S172?but the speeding offence must be notified to a court within 6 months.
Your brother needs to provide the information that is within his power to identify the driver to the police.
The lease company may not even be the registered keeper (RK) 
; the chain in this - at the longest - may be that the police sent the S.172 request to the RK who nominated the lease company, then the lease company received their own S.172 request and nominated the company, who then received their own S.172 request and nominated the driver (leading to this thread).
Assuming each step (sending out the S.172 to the nominated person/company and receiving a reply and actioning it) took an average 4 weeks to fully action, three months thus far is quite feasible and not untypical.
; the chain in this - at the longest - may be that the police sent the S.172 request to the RK who nominated the lease company, then the lease company received their own S.172 request and nominated the company, who then received their own S.172 request and nominated the driver (leading to this thread).Assuming each step (sending out the S.172 to the nominated person/company and receiving a reply and actioning it) took an average 4 weeks to fully action, three months thus far is quite feasible and not untypical.
I had this exact situation some years ago and spent the day that I got the S172 in a REALLY bad mood, moaning about how I was supposed to remember where I had been 3 months before.
The following day I realised that the date of the alleged offence was the day I got my new car and the alleged offence was actually committed by the delivery driver taking the old car south.
So I did my duty as a good citizen and delayed my reply for the full 28 days just in case that allowed his ticket to time out.
The following day I realised that the date of the alleged offence was the day I got my new car and the alleged offence was actually committed by the delivery driver taking the old car south.
So I did my duty as a good citizen and delayed my reply for the full 28 days just in case that allowed his ticket to time out.
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