Quick MOT question
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Just a quickie.
If say for example your car has 6 months MOT on it and you put back in for a new MOT (say to sell it) and it fails, would that make the existing 6 months MOT not valid?
Only asking as a chap I work with is planning on changing his car and I think it will fail on a few things.
If say for example your car has 6 months MOT on it and you put back in for a new MOT (say to sell it) and it fails, would that make the existing 6 months MOT not valid?
Only asking as a chap I work with is planning on changing his car and I think it will fail on a few things.
sherbertdip said:
MOT only in effect valid at time of testing, owner is then responsible then for keeping it roadworthy, so yes if you put it in for another MOT and it fails - it fails.
The failure is merely a refusal to renew the MOT - it does not invalidate the existing MOT.Whether it's legal to drive the car depends on the nature of the fault that caused it to fail, and whether that renders it unroadworthy. But that was true before you entered the car for the test anyway: if your car has a fault that renders it unroadworthy then it's illegal to drive it, regardless of its MOT status.
eatcustard said:
He has a cracked rear lenses and a damaged rear number plate and the front break discs are scored to hell
They are not failures within themselves. Do the cracked lenses have sharp edges that could cause injury?, do they allow white light to be shown to the rear?, can the registration plate be read at 20 metres? are all the characters complete and the reflectivity intact? are the brake discs seriously weakened?, do they cause the brakes to pull, judder or grab?, do they affect the efficiency?mcford said:
eatcustard said:
He has a cracked rear lenses and a damaged rear number plate and the front break discs are scored to hell
They are not failures within themselves. Do the cracked lenses have sharp edges that could cause injury?, do they allow white light to be shown to the rear?, can the registration plate be read at 20 metres? are all the characters complete and the reflectivity intact? are the brake discs seriously weakened?, do they cause the brakes to pull, judder or grab?, do they affect the efficiency?The plate, you cant read it at 20m with guessing, so a fail
The brakes are a joke and they are massively scored and pitted, so high chance of a fail.
eatcustard said:
Lense, you can see white light, so a fail (indicator)
The plate, you cant read it at 20m with guessing, so a fail
The brakes are a joke and they are massively scored and pitted, so high chance of a fail.
None of those should be too expensive to fix if he can use a spanner. They will probably be repaid at sale time if he has 12 months MOT instead of 6. Otherwise he should be prepared to be knocked down by a buyer on all of the faults.The plate, you cant read it at 20m with guessing, so a fail
The brakes are a joke and they are massively scored and pitted, so high chance of a fail.
Purity14 said:
Bigends said:
The current certificate remains valid until its expiry date
This is the true answer.Maybe in the days before the national database. If you go along 6 months later after a pass is issued and it fails there will be a Failure Cert issued which then overrules the previous pass, irrespective of whether it is "in date".
ANPR check by plod or VOSA will show NO VALID MOT.
eatcustard said:
Lense, you can see white light, so a fail (indicator)
The plate, you cant read it at 20m with guessing, so a fail
The brakes are a joke and they are massively scored and pitted, so high chance of a fail.
For the indicator stick a new orange bulb in, a new registration plate and the discs seem like a pass and advise to me, they have to very bad to fail.The plate, you cant read it at 20m with guessing, so a fail
The brakes are a joke and they are massively scored and pitted, so high chance of a fail.
sherbertdip said:
You both sure?
Maybe in the days before the national database. If you go along 6 months later after a pass is issued and it fails there will be a Failure Cert issued which then overrules the previous pass, irrespective of whether it is "in date".
ANPR check by plod or VOSA will show NO VALID MOT.
We don't issue certificates for test failure and we do not have the power to revoke existing valid MOT pass certificates. When we fail a car, we issue a refusal to give a certificate, some of the wording on it is as:Maybe in the days before the national database. If you go along 6 months later after a pass is issued and it fails there will be a Failure Cert issued which then overrules the previous pass, irrespective of whether it is "in date".
ANPR check by plod or VOSA will show NO VALID MOT.
Contingency Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate
Signature of Issuer
Odometer Reading
Country of Registration
Approx First Use
1 This document tells you that your vehicle has not been shown to meet the minimum legal requirements for the reason(s) details. If you
intend to use your vehicle on the road you should have it repaired without delay and have it retested before the existing validity expires.
That last bit says that despite a refusal, the current MOT certificate is still valid until it expires.
Edited by mcford on Tuesday 8th September 18:08
;yes: Even the often flaky gov.uk web site has got this one right - https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test
This is the document the previous poster mentioned.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
This is the document the previous poster mentioned.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
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