a new twist on parking regulations?
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We were out today and paid for a days parking at £7 as we would be over the other option of 2 hrs for £2, this is pay and display (Lincolnshire East Lindsey District Council)
We left after just under 5 hrs and ticket was valid for just under another 2hrs , so on the way out i wound my window down and gave the ticket to the driver of a car coming in, he was happy!
Just as we left the car park a van pulled out from between two buildings and blocked my exit, it was marked as a Council vehicle, the chap got out and proceeded to tell me that I had broken the rules, I asked what rules, he said I couldn't give the ticket away as it was stopping the council getting revenue, I told him to sod off, he said he'd got my number and the council will be "doing me", I just laughed reversed a bit and drove past him as he frantically scribbled the reg number on his hand.
Now, as far as I'm concerned I paid for a full day's parking, the parking place was left vacant before the full day, to be replaced by another car which could have only paid for 2 hrs max anyway, so the council have not lost out, the driver of the incoming car got free parking at my expense.
I'm not at all concerned, however i wondered if anybody else had received the same "advice" in a similar situation.
We left after just under 5 hrs and ticket was valid for just under another 2hrs , so on the way out i wound my window down and gave the ticket to the driver of a car coming in, he was happy!
Just as we left the car park a van pulled out from between two buildings and blocked my exit, it was marked as a Council vehicle, the chap got out and proceeded to tell me that I had broken the rules, I asked what rules, he said I couldn't give the ticket away as it was stopping the council getting revenue, I told him to sod off, he said he'd got my number and the council will be "doing me", I just laughed reversed a bit and drove past him as he frantically scribbled the reg number on his hand.
Now, as far as I'm concerned I paid for a full day's parking, the parking place was left vacant before the full day, to be replaced by another car which could have only paid for 2 hrs max anyway, so the council have not lost out, the driver of the incoming car got free parking at my expense.
I'm not at all concerned, however i wondered if anybody else had received the same "advice" in a similar situation.
You may receive an official letter from the council requesting the details of the driver, if this is anything like the letters they send asking the RK to identify the driver of a vehicle they have seen smoking. The advice I've read is that they (Currently) have no official powers to force you to identify the driver.
The letter will make it look like you legally have to identify the driver.
They can only fine the driver of the vehicle, so if you don't identify the driver they cannot take action.
If you get such a letter, post up for advice on here or pepipoo
The letter will make it look like you legally have to identify the driver.
They can only fine the driver of the vehicle, so if you don't identify the driver they cannot take action.
If you get such a letter, post up for advice on here or pepipoo
PurpleMoonlight said:
The terms & conditions will likely say not transferrable somewhere.
If so you have simply given someone a worthless piece of paper. If they try to use it they are the one committing the parking offence by not paying.
I had this very same thought, so maybe I'm culpable to an extent, but cannot be chased for denying the council money. I can see the local news paper headlines now "driver has civil claim brought against him for aiding the defraud of council for the sum of £2"If so you have simply given someone a worthless piece of paper. If they try to use it they are the one committing the parking offence by not paying.
PurpleMoonlight said:
The terms & conditions will likely say not transferrable somewhere.
If so you have simply given someone a worthless piece of paper. If they try to use it they are the one committing the parking offence by not paying.
Indeed. But then they will also have to clearly demonstrate that the person you passed it to didn't get it from the machine. The only real way to do that is that when you buy the ticket you also have to tap in your reg number.If so you have simply given someone a worthless piece of paper. If they try to use it they are the one committing the parking offence by not paying.
You have to wonder how the "cash strapped" council can afford to have a man in a van at the weekend sitting waiting and watching - unbelievable.
Some of the councils seem to think they're doubling up as Magnum PI instead of getting on with the business they are supposed to do like keeping the roads well maintained.
Some of the councils seem to think they're doubling up as Magnum PI instead of getting on with the business they are supposed to do like keeping the roads well maintained.
Hamish Finn said:
Hol said:
It appears he will probably be fined for not having purchased a valid ticket.
What makes you think that? The fine is usually for not displaying a valid ticket, and the second chap will be displaying a valid ticket.It has already been stated that they are non-transferable, so by deduction (of the OP's statement) I guessed that he will have been observed by the council worker of displaying an invalid ticket.
sherbertdip said:
Just as we left the car park a van pulled out from between two buildings and blocked my exit, it was marked as a Council vehicle, the chap got out and proceeded to tell me that I had broken the rules,.
Its sad to think that he could now have a fine, when you consider that somebody (the OP) had paid for a full days parking.Of course, the council worker could just have ignored it all and gotten on with eating his lunch, instead.
Edited by Hol on Monday 21st September 08:29
dacouch said:
You may receive an official letter from the council requesting the details of the driver, if this is anything like the letters they send asking the RK to identify the driver of a vehicle they have seen smoking. The advice I've read is that they (Currently) have no official powers to force you to identify the driver.
The letter will make it look like you legally have to identify the driver.
They can only fine the driver of the vehicle, so if you don't identify the driver they cannot take action.
What if the car is driven in and parked by one person, but driven away by a different person?The letter will make it look like you legally have to identify the driver.
They can only fine the driver of the vehicle, so if you don't identify the driver they cannot take action.
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