Does this break any laws?
Does this break any laws?
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wildcat45

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8,160 posts

219 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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Contains swearing. But assuming it was just out under a wiper blade would it be breaking any laws?


anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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It contravenes the "Chill Out, Dude, it's just some bad parking. Go and drink some tea or smoke a bong or something (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff Amendment) (Number 2) Regulations 2015."

Unless you, OP, were the special guest star on youparklikea.com, in which case, it's fine.

Butter Face

35,052 posts

190 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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That's proper legalist advice right thurrr.


whoami

13,201 posts

270 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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Where had you parked?

crazy about cars

4,454 posts

199 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
It contravenes the "Chill Out, Dude, it's just some bad parking. Go and drink some tea or smoke a bong or something (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff Amendment) (Number 2) Regulations 2015."

Unless you, OP, were the special guest star on youparklikea.com, in which case, it's fine.
Righteous dude! Rock on!

wildcat45

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8,160 posts

219 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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It's the old inconsiderate people blocking my drive thing. 10 plate Honda with every worthy were tree hugging middle class tts stickers in the Windows. English Heritage, National Trust etc. The latest in a string of wkers.

I was thinking with the swearing it may get the message across but I don't want some bleeding heart 'you cause offense' accusation levied at me.

I guess liquid honey on the door handles would be criminal damage and despite being annoyed I'm not wanting to break the law.

I'm hoping to get trick or treaters. Be really Arden with them then tell them not to touch 'my' silver Honda. Sadly - on this occasion - were not bothered by them here.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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wildcat45

Original Poster:

8,160 posts

219 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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A friend sent me just that. But I just got this.....

wildcat45

Original Poster:

8,160 posts

219 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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so does anyone know if the yellow poster, because it contains swearing is illegal?

4rephill

5,171 posts

208 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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I walked past a car parked outside a house the other day that had a handwritten note under the windscreen that read in large letters: "NICE PARKING! YOU'RE BLOCKING MY FcensoredING DRIVEWAY YOU FcensoredING WcensoredR!" for all the World to see!

The funny thing was, whilst there was a tarmac parking space in the front garden next to the house, there was no dropped curb for the property.

Straight away I was thinking, between the car driver and the home owner, the one who is actually in the wrong here is the home owner!, firstly for leaving an obscene message in public view, and secondly for driving over the raised curb to access the property.

I did wonder though what would happen if the car driver took the note to the Police? (yes, yes, yes: "They wouldn't be interested!" - This was just one of those: "But what if they were interested in getting involved" thoughts).

So assuming the Police were interested, would the driver be advised not to park there again?, would the home owner be cautioned or fined for leaving an obscene message in public?, and would the home owner be advised that they were breaking the Law by driving over the raised curb to access the property?

As I say, I know the Police would be unlikely to get involved but what if?.....




wildcat45

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8,160 posts

219 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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Yes basically my thoughts though in my case it is a dropped kerb with two cars parked on it.

I try not to get too annoyed.

Honey on the door handles would get the message home but that is criminal damage. As is letting air out of tyres. Both would be sure fire ways of getting your message across but there'd be no legal justification or defence for it.

However the car has a visitors parking permit on the dash. So the driver will have probably parked there, gone to the house they were visiting and returned with the ticket.

What does piss me off is that the owners are clearly not thick scummers. That would be annoying but understandable to a certain extent. This car reeks of "caring" English Heritage and National trust stickers, etc. The sort of car a church going Lake District walking retired teachers drive in.

Hence my reluctance to use swear words.

I've called the police in the past and they have been very good. They really do have better things to do than deal with this.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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I seem to remember a pic doing the rounds with a picture of Mickey Mouse with his thumb up saying "Thanks for parking so close to my car. Next time, leave a tin opener so i can get my fking car out."

hehe

Butter Face

35,052 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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It's awfully passive agressive leaving these type of notes, it does mark you out as a bit of a weirdo who either: A) should just get over someone parking in 'your' space if they're not causing any obstruction, or B) if they're causing an obstruction, politely say to them 'excuse me, could you possibly park your car slighty further back/forward/somewhere else as I can't access my driveway, thanks'

If they then choose to be a dick about it, it's their problem. I've never fallen out with someone who asked me to move, and I've never fallen out with someone I've asked to move.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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wildcat45 said:
so does anyone know if the yellow poster, because it contains swearing is illegal?
Swearing is not illegal, FFS. Where do people get this ing nonsense from?

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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The OP comes across, at least to my reading of the thread, as the sort of person who becomes perhaps unduly tense about relatively unimportant things, and may also have an unrealistic view as to the extent of his property rights, and their relationship with public roads. There are also many not very competent and confident drivers out there who think that they need a few car lengths clear each side of their driveway to be able to enter and leave it safely. I do not know if the OP is one of those. I assume not, as all on PH are assumed to be driving Gods. In any event, a polite word usually works better than a wky sign. As the OP refers to previous history with other (according to him) bad parkers, perhaps the OP is not very good at having polite words. Maybe the OP is just unlucky and attracts all the most inconsiderate neighbours, or maybe the OP needs to chill and get a bit more into the give and take approach to life. I dunno.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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wildcat45 said:
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I've called the police in the past and they have been very good. They really do have better things to do than deal with this.
By calling the police about some allegedly inconsiderate parking, OP, you have confirmed the impression that you are a bit of a Mr Logic style annoying git. I am sorry, but it is sometimes necessary to be cruel to be kind. Take a pill, bloke!

wildcat45

Original Poster:

8,160 posts

219 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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If I knew where they were I would ask them to move. It's hard to explain the local geography here but it is an estate of large Edwardian houses many of which are built on pedestrianised walkways. It was probably a great idea in 1901 before cars were common.

I can't be knocking on 100 doors.

Passive aggressive - whatever that means - seems to be the only option. Active aggressive - assuming that is the opposite of passive - is not really an option. I'm not in the habit, neither do I have any desire to put some national trust member on their arse as a means of teaching them a lesson.

I would however like them to get the message in a direct and legal way.

So, can anyone tell me if the yellow poster is illegal?

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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It is not illegal, but using it makes you a . Does that help? Write a polite note, FFS.

Butter Face

35,052 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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wildcat45 said:
I would however like them to get the message in a direct and legal way.
Dear Sir/Madam

My name is Johnny Wifflebottom (insert your name here) and I live in Number 69 (insert your house number here)

I have tried to catch you but I'm not sure which house you are visiting/living in but have been unable to speak to you.

If possible could you please park your car back/forward/left/right a bit (delete as appropriate) as I have trouble gaining access to my drive as I'm a crap driver/disabled/have one eye/etc (delete as appropriate).

Many thanks and I look forward to saying hello when I see you next!

Yours

Johhny Wifflebottom (insert your name here)




HTH.

The Mad Monk

11,565 posts

147 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
Swearing is not illegal, FFS. Where do people get this ing nonsense from?
Section 5 Public Order Act:-

The offence[edit]
The offence is created by section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986. Section 5(1) provides:

"(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he:
(a) uses threatening [or abusive] words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
(b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening [or abusive],
within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby."
The words "or abusive" were substituted for the words ", abusive or insulting", in both places they occurred,[1] on 1 February 2014.[2]

This offence has the following statutory defences:

(a) The defendant had no reason to believe that there was any person within hearing or sight who was likely to be alarmed or distressed by his action.
(b) The defendant was in a dwelling and had no reason to believe that his behaviour would be seen or heard by any person outside any dwelling.
(c) The conduct was reasonable.