Parking Fines on Private Land

[ryanMIL]

Can anyone help with this?

When I got my parking permit from my new employer, I presumed, incorrectly, that it allowed me to park in any of their car parks. I received a few PCN's which I initially dismissed; it was only after appealing one which I found out that my permit didn't cover the car park which I had been occasionally using.

The appointed "parking management company" have refused my appeal and are enforcing 3 fines, totalling £240.

Whilst I was at uni, I did a module on contract law and remember our lecturer explaining that private parking fines are unenforceable, but that was a few years ago now.

Does anyone have some up-to-date knowledge on this?

Thanks.

[silverfoxcc]

First of all do not reply to the PPC before logging onto pepipoo.com and asking this in the Private parking thread.
Tere are those on here who say they are a waste of time, but it is your 240.00 not theirs. Above all DO NOT tell the PPC you are the driver
Chaps on pepipoo to listen to are hcandrson, dancindad and Gan. Just follow exaclty what they tell you do do and you money should be safe.Dont bullst them, and always tell the truth

[Ian Geary]

I'm surprised that University law lecturers are spending their time giving out advice on how to avoid private parking fines.

Good work if you can get it: lets hope your £9k a year tuition fees weren't just being used by the Professors to browse Pepipoo.

In my layman's opinion, the fuss about who was the driver (and therefore who the "contract" is with) was superceeded by the recent legal changes that by default made the keeper of the vehicle liable for parking charges.

Challenges instead focused on quality of signage, techical issues like recording of repeat visits to sites, adherance to charging guidelines, evidence to support the "estimate of loss", and whether the parking company had valid permissions from the land owner to operate.

Personally, I think you've got 240 great reasons to learn a life lesson about not ignoring things posted to you. Very few problems get better by being ignored.



Ian
on a high horse, somewhere in Surrey

[Billsnemesis]

This

https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2015-0116.h...

Parking Eye Limited v Beavis

Decision went in favour of the operator.

[paintman]

Following the ruling in Beavis the advice given by your lecturers is out of date.
Discussed at some length here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=155...

[S11Steve]

Billsnemesis said:

This

https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2015-0116.h...

Parking Eye Limited v Beavis

Decision went in favour of the operator.

But only on one aspect of the bigger issue - the loss does not have to be a genuine pre-estimate, but can be commercially justified.

There are still many ways to have the tickets cancelled, without much effort.