Mitigating curcamstances - Attatch a letter & Picture?
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cptsideways said:
Just filling out the naughty boy form for a visit to the mags next week. Is it sensible or allowed to attach a letter and a picture to the mitigating circumstances section?
Are you pleading guilty to an offence?If so, it would be better to attend in person to put forward your plea for mitigating circumstances. Even at that, the mitigating circumstances would need to be quite convincing as a lot of the time they're feeble and make no difference.
hman said:
I dont think it will make any difference, ignorance is no excuse. (as far as the law is concerned)
One would wish, intellect & knowledge of the road design type might be considered against missing a road sign suggesting otherwise! But hey hoNo I will not be using this in court!
speedking31 said:
Was it literally one sign? i.e. there wasn't a sign on each side of the carriageway, in which case an incorrect signage defence might fly.
There are two small'ish signs when coming from the 40 limit, but the road is 3 lanes wide at this point. I missed these signs from 40 to 30 and assumed the change was upwards at the DC ahead. I am heading eastbound. I got pinged on the DC 500 yards ahead.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Taunton,+Somer...
cptsideways said:
There are two small'ish signs when coming from the 40 limit, but the road is 3 lanes wide at this point.
I missed these signs from 40 to 30 and assumed the change was upwards at the DC ahead. I am heading eastbound. I got pinged on the DC 500 yards ahead.
I missed these signs from 40 to 30 and assumed the change was upwards at the DC ahead. I am heading eastbound. I got pinged on the DC 500 yards ahead.
Was it in this direction? In which case you missed the one on the road as well...
Poor / no chance mitigation in my view.
cptsideways said:
There are two small'ish signs when coming from the 40 limit, but the road is 3 lanes wide at this point.
I missed these signs from 40 to 30 and assumed the change was upwards at the DC ahead. I am heading eastbound. I got pinged on the DC 500 yards ahead.
And right there is where you went wrong!I missed these signs from 40 to 30 and assumed the change was upwards at the DC ahead. I am heading eastbound. I got pinged on the DC 500 yards ahead.
You can't miss something and then assume something else - like you can't miss a shops opening hours when it's closed and then smash the door down assuming it was open .... it just won't wash.
And it's not a DC ahead as there are no crash barriers in the central reservation.
Edited by Squiggs on Thursday 10th December 14:04
Edited by Squiggs on Thursday 10th December 14:07
Squiggs said:
And right there is where you went wrong!
You can't miss something and then assume something else - like you can't miss a shops opening hours when it's closed and then smash the door down assuming it was open .... it just won't wash.
Right - and, as I hinted above, trying to mitigate by saying "I didn't see it" sounds like an admission of something more serious than speeding.You can't miss something and then assume something else - like you can't miss a shops opening hours when it's closed and then smash the door down assuming it was open .... it just won't wash.
Squiggs said:
And it's not a DC ahead as there are no crash barriers in the central reservation.
Wrong. Barriers are not required. A central reservation is quite sufficient. (see https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/gener... between 136 and 137)I am admitting defeat & going guilty, I knew just how fast I was going. What I'm getting at is:
Is there any plea in mitigation that is was a DC not a built up town center. Is what I'm getting at!
PS: A DC does not need crash barriers to be a DC, it just needs a dividing area between the two carriageways, which it has
Is there any plea in mitigation that is was a DC not a built up town center. Is what I'm getting at!
PS: A DC does not need crash barriers to be a DC, it just needs a dividing area between the two carriageways, which it has

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But yes in reality its quite zippy, honestly! I shall be pinning a copy of the summons to the bog wall to prove it.