Are you parked if still in the car ?
Are you parked if still in the car ?
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robinessex

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12,031 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Simple occurrence. Going to pick up daughter, stopped in a quiet section of a minor road on double yellow lines. Still in car, engine running. Hadn't been there more than 30 seconds when a traffic warden appeared from nowhere, who said ‘he could book me for parking’. At that moment daughter appeared, jumped into the car, and I wished the Gestapo guy ‘have a nice day’ as I drove away. So, was I ‘parked’? Curious to know.

AH33

2,066 posts

165 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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I thought that was "waiting"?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

187 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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If you weren't parked, what were you?

marting

668 posts

204 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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I think they refer to it as "no waiting" rather than no parking in the highway code.

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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As mentioned. Double yellow lines mean no waiting. You were waiting so yes in theory he could write you a ticket or if a council camera car or CCTV recorded you, one would arrive in the post.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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robinessex said:
Simple occurrence. Going to pick up daughter, stopped in a quiet section of a minor road on double yellow lines. Still in car, engine running. Hadn't been there more than 30 seconds when a traffic warden appeared from nowhere, who said ‘he could book me for parking’. At that moment daughter appeared, jumped into the car, and I wished the Gestapo guy ‘have a nice day’ as I drove away. So, was I ‘parked’? Curious to know.
Look at what the lines, markings & signs relate to.
No parking is a misnomer, it's no waiting.

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Edited by vonhosen on Thursday 10th March 15:52

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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You were in the wrong.

You'd have been OK on double-yellows while actually loading or unloading, including your passenger actually getting in or out - but not waiting for the passenger-to-be to arrive. It's all in the Highway Code, if you remember that far back?

Highway Code said:
Waiting restrictions indicated by yellow lines apply to the carriageway, pavement and verge. You may stop to load or unload (unless there are also loading restrictions as described below) or while passengers board or alight. Double yellow lines mean no waiting at any time, unless there are signs that specifically indicate seasonal restrictions.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/road-markings

robinessex

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12,031 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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This is a one way street, it's also the only access to the Royal Mail, it's often a pain in arse because of their lorries/vans blocking the road, and also reversing into the yard. If I have to wait there, sometimes for as long as 2/3 minutes while they do this, am I now still waiting then, and can I get a ticket !!

Roo

11,504 posts

237 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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robinessex said:
This is a one way street, it's also the only access to the Royal Mail, it's often a pain in arse because of their lorries/vans blocking the road, and also reversing into the yard. If I have to wait there, sometimes for as long as 2/3 minutes while they do this, am I now still waiting then, and can I get a ticket !!
No, that's queueing in traffic.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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robinessex said:
This is a one way street, it's also the only access to the Royal Mail, it's often a pain in arse because of their lorries/vans blocking the road, and also reversing into the yard. If I have to wait there, sometimes for as long as 2/3 minutes while they do this, am I now still waiting then, and can I get a ticket !!
If you genuinely can't see any difference between being deliberately stationary at the side of the road, and sitting in a traffic queue, it might be time to hand your licence in.

robinessex

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12,031 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
robinessex said:
This is a one way street, it's also the only access to the Royal Mail, it's often a pain in arse because of their lorries/vans blocking the road, and also reversing into the yard. If I have to wait there, sometimes for as long as 2/3 minutes while they do this, am I now still waiting then, and can I get a ticket !!
If you genuinely can't see any difference between being deliberately stationary at the side of the road, and sitting in a traffic queue, it might be time to hand your licence in.
Well done, you win the prize!! I was waiting for that reply !!! There was a point, you missed it!!!!

RobinOakapple

2,802 posts

142 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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robinessex said:
TooMany2cvs said:
robinessex said:
This is a one way street, it's also the only access to the Royal Mail, it's often a pain in arse because of their lorries/vans blocking the road, and also reversing into the yard. If I have to wait there, sometimes for as long as 2/3 minutes while they do this, am I now still waiting then, and can I get a ticket !!
If you genuinely can't see any difference between being deliberately stationary at the side of the road, and sitting in a traffic queue, it might be time to hand your licence in.
Well done, you win the prize!! I was waiting for that reply !!! There was a point, you missed it!!!!
I missed it too.

robinessex

Original Poster:

12,031 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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RobinOakapple said:
robinessex said:
TooMany2cvs said:
robinessex said:
This is a one way street, it's also the only access to the Royal Mail, it's often a pain in arse because of their lorries/vans blocking the road, and also reversing into the yard. If I have to wait there, sometimes for as long as 2/3 minutes while they do this, am I now still waiting then, and can I get a ticket !!
If you genuinely can't see any difference between being deliberately stationary at the side of the road, and sitting in a traffic queue, it might be time to hand your licence in.
Well done, you win the prize!! I was waiting for that reply !!! There was a point, you missed it!!!!
I missed it too.
I'll help you. If I 'waiting', I get nicked. If I'm 'stuck in traffic' in the the same spot for much longer, it's ok. So why can't I wait then? No difference!

Roo

11,504 posts

237 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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robinessex said:
I'll help you. If I 'waiting', I get nicked. If I'm 'stuck in traffic' in the the same spot for much longer, it's ok. So why can't I wait then? No difference!
Because the DYL means no waiting. You're not meant to stop on a motorway either but that doesn't stop it being a regular occurrence.

RobinOakapple

2,802 posts

142 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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robinessex said:
RobinOakapple said:
robinessex said:
TooMany2cvs said:
robinessex said:
This is a one way street, it's also the only access to the Royal Mail, it's often a pain in arse because of their lorries/vans blocking the road, and also reversing into the yard. If I have to wait there, sometimes for as long as 2/3 minutes while they do this, am I now still waiting then, and can I get a ticket !!
If you genuinely can't see any difference between being deliberately stationary at the side of the road, and sitting in a traffic queue, it might be time to hand your licence in.
Well done, you win the prize!! I was waiting for that reply !!! There was a point, you missed it!!!!
I missed it too.
I'll help you. If I 'waiting', I get nicked. If I'm 'stuck in traffic' in the the same spot for much longer, it's ok. So why can't I wait then? No difference!
I assumed there was something buried in your post that I missed. Now that you have shown that there wasn't, I don't think I can improve on TooMany2cvs's answer.

robinessex

Original Poster:

12,031 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Maybe the point I was making is to subtle. Never mimd, I'm taking the dog for a walk now.

Roo

11,504 posts

237 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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robinessex said:
Maybe the point I was making is to subtle. Never mimd, I'm taking the dog for a walk now.
It wasn't a subtle point, it was two completely different scenarios.

Countdown

49,519 posts

226 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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robinessex said:
I'll help you. If I 'waiting', I get nicked. If I'm 'stuck in traffic' in the the same spot for much longer, it's ok. So why can't I wait then? No difference!
you're probably stuck in traffic because some inconsiderate sod has parked on DYLs......

robinessex

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211 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Countdown said:
robinessex said:
I'll help you. If I 'waiting', I get nicked. If I'm 'stuck in traffic' in the the same spot for much longer, it's ok. So why can't I wait then? No difference!
you're probably stuck in traffic because some inconsiderate sod has parked on DYLs......
Read earlier posts. I said it's 90% of the time the bloody Royal Mail lorries and Trucks causing Chaos. In a minor one way street.

walm

10,644 posts

232 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Countdown said:
you're probably stuck in traffic because some inconsiderate sod has parked on DYLs......
You won this thread! Excellent work!