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Cyclists riding too fast is one of the key points raised in the age old ‘motorists v cyclists’ debates, but the Alliance of British Drivers (ABD) missed a key fact in their newsletter article on the subject.
In a section of the March 2016 newsletter entitled ‘Are cyclists racing on London’s streets?’ the author refers to a letter written to the Telegraph in December stating that riders are putting pedestrians at risk by speeding on London’s streets.
The author of the letter advised people to look at the Embankment segment on Strava to see proof of speeding cyclists, which the ABD picked up on joyfully when noticing that the ‘winner’ of the segment is a chap named Tom Moses who completed the segment with an average speed of 31.7mph.
“Apart from the fact that there are several traffic lights and pedestrian crossings on that stretch of road, clearly Mr Moses is exceeding the 30mph speed limit along that road,” the newsletter reads.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/th...
What they failed to notice, however, that the KoM was set on September 22, 2013 – the date of the London stage of the Tour of Britain – and that Tom Moses is a professional cyclist with JLT Condor.
Therefore, the roads were closed to traffic, pedestrian crossings were closed and traffic lights were ignored in the spirit of actual racing.
mygoldfishbowl said:
^^ The safest way? The safest way would be not to ride a bicycle in a busy city.
Top quote! Absolutely right. When I was a kid and rode a bike (and I didn't need flashing lights on my nut, weird Lycra pants and a silly plastic hat), what you did was stay out the way of the traffic! As a five year old, I worked out cars and vans and lorries were way bigger and heavier than me. Hence, I safely rode about making sure I didn't get in the way, didn't cut them up expecting them to love me, didnt jump lights and then moan at the cars that honked as they avoided my stupid ass, and didnt ride in the middle of the road (im owning my space- donuts).Cyclists get a bad rap due to the militant muppet types that bounce around being a nuisance, and are surprised when they have accidents, or someone honks or shouts. Just get out the way you wallies
I'm a keen cyclist on London streets and I'm effing careful, no lycra of horrible stobe lights or attitude. Generally I hate london cyclists, arrogant types with way too bright lights.
Car driver, eco hybrid and supercar, motorcyclist, pedestrian, runner
I do them all so I can hate everyone from the other side
Car driver, eco hybrid and supercar, motorcyclist, pedestrian, runner
I do them all so I can hate everyone from the other sidedaytona355 said:
mygoldfishbowl said:
^^ The safest way? The safest way would be not to ride a bicycle in a busy city.
Top quote! Absolutely right. When I was a kid and rode a bike (and I didn't need flashing lights on my nut, weird Lycra pants and a silly plastic hat), what you did was stay out the way of the traffic! As a five year old, I worked out cars and vans and lorries were way bigger and heavier than me. Hence, I safely rode about making sure I didn't get in the way, didn't cut them up expecting them to love me, didnt jump lights and then moan at the cars that honked as they avoided my stupid ass, and didnt ride in the middle of the road (im owning my space- donuts).Cyclists get a bad rap due to the militant muppet types that bounce around being a nuisance, and are surprised when they have accidents, or someone honks or shouts. Just get out the way you wallies
Maybe the real wallies are those whose time can't be very precious as they lag around at 9mph paying the congestion charge whilst I swan around at nearly double that. Maybe my time is more economically important than yours?
oyster said:
What's really funny about your view is the very last line. 99% of the time in London it's the cyclists being held up by motor vehicles
Maybe the real wallies are those whose time can't be very precious as they lag around at 9mph paying the congestion charge whilst I swan around at nearly double that. Maybe my time is more economically important than yours?
I do remember leaving Crouch End same time as a Testarossa and beating him by 5" to Tottenham Court Rd. No traffic lights were harmed in setting this world record. And forget tribalism - many of us span many tribes! But milk float drivers - arghhh - they get me all hot and frothy!Maybe the real wallies are those whose time can't be very precious as they lag around at 9mph paying the congestion charge whilst I swan around at nearly double that. Maybe my time is more economically important than yours?
We do need an ABD type thing to counter all the BS and vested interest disservice out there but they can be a bit ranty and often quite unwise, sadly,
- edit (I was on a push bike, wearing corduroy)
Edited by Ken Figenus on Friday 11th March 14:58
oyster said:
daytona355 said:
mygoldfishbowl said:
^^ The safest way? The safest way would be not to ride a bicycle in a busy city.
Top quote! Absolutely right. When I was a kid and rode a bike (and I didn't need flashing lights on my nut, weird Lycra pants and a silly plastic hat), what you did was stay out the way of the traffic! As a five year old, I worked out cars and vans and lorries were way bigger and heavier than me. Hence, I safely rode about making sure I didn't get in the way, didn't cut them up expecting them to love me, didnt jump lights and then moan at the cars that honked as they avoided my stupid ass, and didnt ride in the middle of the road (im owning my space- donuts).Cyclists get a bad rap due to the militant muppet types that bounce around being a nuisance, and are surprised when they have accidents, or someone honks or shouts. Just get out the way you wallies
Maybe the real wallies are those whose time can't be very precious as they lag around at 9mph paying the congestion charge whilst I swan around at nearly double that. Maybe my time is more economically important than yours?
And how do you break a speed limit that doesn't exist?
Edited by heebeegeetee on Friday 11th March 10:38
mybrainhurts said:
It says "Track your rides and runs via your iPhone, Android or GPS device, analyze your performance, and compare with friends....64,691 attempts by 5,962 people"
Suggests to me they're encouraging other sweaties to bust the record.
So, ABD 1...OTBC 0
Encouraging people to break a record set on a closed road eh? I guess the FIA are doing something similar with Mr D Ricciardo's record of 1.18 around Monaco.Suggests to me they're encouraging other sweaties to bust the record.
So, ABD 1...OTBC 0
_dobbo_ said:
In this thread, people missing the point of the post.
The road was closed for a professional cycling race - holding that up as an example of London cyclists speeding is nothing short of epically dumb.
Look at the website. It's encouraging cyclist to beat the competition record.The road was closed for a professional cycling race - holding that up as an example of London cyclists speeding is nothing short of epically dumb.
mygoldfishbowl said:
^^ The safest way? The safest way would be not to ride a bicycle in a busy city.
I've come to the conclusion that traffic ruins city centres. We've all got so used to being able to sit in our 1.5 tonne metal boxes that we've come to regard it as our right to do so. In fact it's not just city centres, go to many popular tourist destinations on a weekend and queues of cars jamming up roads detracts significantly from the experience.So yes, not cycling in a city centre may well be safer for cyclists if everything else remains the same, but the answer isn't to discourage them, it's to work towards getting rid of the cars.
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