CHERISHED NUMBER ON RETENTION
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Has anyone had practical experience recently of putting a registration on retention? Have the rules changed?
Over the weekend there was a 1935 Sunbeam for sale on the bay and the seller wanted the winner pay an additional £2700 on top of the winning bid for the plate, or if they did not want the number then he would retain the car for four weeks while he arranged for the retention.
Looking at the pictures the car was not a runner, although it was described as "rolling". I was always unde the impression that to be eligible for transfer / retention a donor car must be taxed (and by inference MOT'd even though it was exempt from MOT for day-to-day use).
Looking on the DVLA site it seems that all is needed now is a V5C and be SORN. Is this new or is the DVLA site being economical with the facts?
Also a supplementary Q. The vehicle must be available for inspection. Who carries out the inspection and where if local DVLA offices are closing?
Thanks.
Over the weekend there was a 1935 Sunbeam for sale on the bay and the seller wanted the winner pay an additional £2700 on top of the winning bid for the plate, or if they did not want the number then he would retain the car for four weeks while he arranged for the retention.
Looking at the pictures the car was not a runner, although it was described as "rolling". I was always unde the impression that to be eligible for transfer / retention a donor car must be taxed (and by inference MOT'd even though it was exempt from MOT for day-to-day use).
Looking on the DVLA site it seems that all is needed now is a V5C and be SORN. Is this new or is the DVLA site being economical with the facts?
Also a supplementary Q. The vehicle must be available for inspection. Who carries out the inspection and where if local DVLA offices are closing?
Thanks.
My other half traded her car against a boxster a few weeks ago and wanted to keep her plate. Bloke in the garage did it there and then on the web... just went to dvla site and removed it from the car she was trading in, unscrewed the plates and gave them to her. A week or so later, she got the cert in the post and did the same to transfer the number to her new car. Easy and instant. no need to wait 4 weeks...
bobtail4x4 said:
pretty sure the doner car needs to to be taxed and tested.
certainly was the case not long ago when I lost an expensive plate for the above reasons. Car blew an engine and was sorned for 6 months while I decided which route to take. Car ended up being broken for spares by myself but I couldn't pull the plate off for the above reason despite explaining to DVLA the situation. No way of MOT'ing a non running car so that was that 
DVLA site makes no mention of an MOT.
Just says must either have been taxed OR have been SORNed in last 5 years.
https://www.gov.uk/keep-registration-number
Can be done on-line. So not sure why the need for a 4-week delay.
Just says must either have been taxed OR have been SORNed in last 5 years.
https://www.gov.uk/keep-registration-number
Can be done on-line. So not sure why the need for a 4-week delay.
I took a plate off my vintage car. Although it is exempt from MOT by virtue of its age I had to have it MOT tested then inspected at a (nominated by the DVLA) VOSA test centre. Fortunately it passed the test and the inspection so I could retain the plate and the car received its original one.
The Motorist said:
I took a plate off my vintage car. Although it is exempt from MOT by virtue of its age I had to have it MOT tested then inspected at a (nominated by the DVLA) VOSA test centre. Fortunately it passed the test and the inspection so I could retain the plate and the car received its original one.
This is how I understood it to be. Did this happen to you recently or was it a year or more ago?just did it a few months ago, and mot exempt due to age does not mean it wont require an mot to have a number plate retained. It will and the car in the OP will almost certainly be subject to a dvla inspection also.
Inspections (you have to pay for it too...) are either carried out at your home by an individual from a private company on behalf of the DVLA or they will give you a date to take the car to your nearest VOSA facility for inspection.
Inspections (you have to pay for it too...) are either carried out at your home by an individual from a private company on behalf of the DVLA or they will give you a date to take the car to your nearest VOSA facility for inspection.
Edited by hedgefinder on Wednesday 16th March 09:46
https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...
Note: Pre-1960 vehicles need a valid MOT to transfer a registration number.
Note: Pre-1960 vehicles need a valid MOT to transfer a registration number.
Useful replies guys. Thanks.
I think I more or less understand that the seller in the OP will have to sell the car with the existing plate. He probably read the DVLA site and saw what he wanted to see.
What is confusing is that one page on the DVLA site says: "Vehicle must be taxed or SORN within the last 5 years"
Whereas another page says: (referring to pre-1960) "Both vehicles must be taxed although it is accepted if the tax has run out in the last 12 months and there is no break between this and it being SORN". (I have paraphrased this slightly but there is a considerable difference between the two requirements).
I think I more or less understand that the seller in the OP will have to sell the car with the existing plate. He probably read the DVLA site and saw what he wanted to see.
What is confusing is that one page on the DVLA site says: "Vehicle must be taxed or SORN within the last 5 years"
Whereas another page says: (referring to pre-1960) "Both vehicles must be taxed although it is accepted if the tax has run out in the last 12 months and there is no break between this and it being SORN". (I have paraphrased this slightly but there is a considerable difference between the two requirements).
The tax/SORN bit may be irrelevant. If you say it's a non-runner, then it won't have an MOT. Without an MOT there is no option to transfer the reg.
If he gets an MOT, he doesn't need tax, as it's exempt, but he can transfer the reg then. Presumably the car with an MOT is worth more than without, because it runs.
So, right now without the MOT he can't transfer the reg if you buy the car, even if there is a valid SORN.
If he gets an MOT, he doesn't need tax, as it's exempt, but he can transfer the reg then. Presumably the car with an MOT is worth more than without, because it runs.
So, right now without the MOT he can't transfer the reg if you buy the car, even if there is a valid SORN.
Chiswickboy said:
Has anyone had practical experience recently of putting a registration on retention? Have the rules changed?
Over the weekend there was a 1935 Sunbeam for sale on the bay and the seller wanted the winner pay an additional £2700 on top of the winning bid for the plate, or if they did not want the number then he would retain the car for four weeks while he arranged for the retention.
Looking at the pictures the car was not a runner, although it was described as "rolling". I was always unde the impression that to be eligible for transfer / retention a donor car must be taxed (and by inference MOT'd even though it was exempt from MOT for day-to-day use).
Looking on the DVLA site it seems that all is needed now is a V5C and be SORN. Is this new or is the DVLA site being economical with the facts?
Also a supplementary Q. The vehicle must be available for inspection. Who carries out the inspection and where if local DVLA offices are closing?
Thanks.
Even if it is the original plate, make sure it is transferable! It might not be. I have two 3x3 plates taken from pre 63 cars. Are you sure it is worth £2,700?Over the weekend there was a 1935 Sunbeam for sale on the bay and the seller wanted the winner pay an additional £2700 on top of the winning bid for the plate, or if they did not want the number then he would retain the car for four weeks while he arranged for the retention.
Looking at the pictures the car was not a runner, although it was described as "rolling". I was always unde the impression that to be eligible for transfer / retention a donor car must be taxed (and by inference MOT'd even though it was exempt from MOT for day-to-day use).
Looking on the DVLA site it seems that all is needed now is a V5C and be SORN. Is this new or is the DVLA site being economical with the facts?
Also a supplementary Q. The vehicle must be available for inspection. Who carries out the inspection and where if local DVLA offices are closing?
Thanks.
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