79 on a motorway - camera van
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We just had a notice of intended prosecution through from the Cumbria constablulary stating that our car was caught by a camera van at 79mph on the M6 motorway.
Is this likely to be a speed awareness course? We're absolutely gutted about this, especially it 'only' being 79. I appreciate that its over the speed limit, and we were in the wrong. She was driving at the time, and hasn't ever done a speed awareness course before, but is on 9 points already.
Likely outcome?
Is this likely to be a speed awareness course? We're absolutely gutted about this, especially it 'only' being 79. I appreciate that its over the speed limit, and we were in the wrong. She was driving at the time, and hasn't ever done a speed awareness course before, but is on 9 points already.
Likely outcome?
Edited by ol on Saturday 4th June 11:26
k's sake.http://www.justanswer.com/uk-traffic-law/6u8vy-poi...
I have no idea what Cumbria's current policy may be, but I suspect it might not be the one the OP wants to hear.
I have no idea what Cumbria's current policy may be, but I suspect it might not be the one the OP wants to hear.
She has actually got 6 points on her licence at the moment, but about 2 weeks ago she got a letter saying she had gone through a red light (at 20mph), which I guess is likely to give her 3 points and bring her up to 9... We haven't sent that letter off yet.
She's been very unlucky to be fair to her - 3 of her current points were from her doing 59mph in a NSL while towing (she didn't know the limit was 50 when towing) and the other 3 were 83 on a motorway, which is a fair cop.
Maybe if we sent this one off before the other she might be offered a SAC before the other 3 go on her license...
She's heavily pregnant at the moment and obviously isn't doing very well with her driving...
She's been very unlucky to be fair to her - 3 of her current points were from her doing 59mph in a NSL while towing (she didn't know the limit was 50 when towing) and the other 3 were 83 on a motorway, which is a fair cop.
Maybe if we sent this one off before the other she might be offered a SAC before the other 3 go on her license...
She's heavily pregnant at the moment and obviously isn't doing very well with her driving...
If caught at 79, then surely car must have been going over 79? Probably more like 81 or above...
I always thought that driving at 79 in a 70 would be perfectly acceptable (10% + 2mph)
Sounds like she's not having the best of luck but I am interested to know what happens next and what other people think of the 79mph thing.
I always thought that driving at 79 in a 70 would be perfectly acceptable (10% + 2mph)
Sounds like she's not having the best of luck but I am interested to know what happens next and what other people think of the 79mph thing.
Red Devil said:
http://www.justanswer.com/uk-traffic-law/6u8vy-poi...
I have no idea what Cumbria's current policy may be, but I suspect it might not be the one the OP wants to hear.
That's the same Jo C. - who thinks that 46/30 is too fast for a fixed penalty? I have no idea what Cumbria's current policy may be, but I suspect it might not be the one the OP wants to hear.
ashleyman said:
So if you're driving to a speedo 79 you should still be fine. So to get caught at 79 the speedo speed would have been 80+?
As well as assuming they start enforcing at 10% +2mph, that also assumes the speedometer over-reads by some amount. That may or may not be the case - it might be bob on. Thanks for the helpful replies
I'm not looking for comments about how she was wrong - I understand that if she was over 70mph, she was speeding. I doubt a single person alive can say that that've never travelled at 79 on a motorway, but even so, we accept that she was speeding.
What we're trying to ascertain is if 79 in a 70 would warrant a SAC, or if it's likely that she'll have to go to court...
I'm not looking for comments about how she was wrong - I understand that if she was over 70mph, she was speeding. I doubt a single person alive can say that that've never travelled at 79 on a motorway, but even so, we accept that she was speeding.
What we're trying to ascertain is if 79 in a 70 would warrant a SAC, or if it's likely that she'll have to go to court...
ol said:
What we're trying to ascertain is if 79 in a 70 would warrant a SAC, or if it's likely that she'll have to go to court...
You'll have to wait and see,I'm afraid - even if all the qualifying criteria are met, there's nothing that says they must offer an awareness course as opposed to a FPN.SS2. said:
ashleyman said:
So if you're driving to a speedo 79 you should still be fine. So to get caught at 79 the speedo speed would have been 80+?
As well as assuming they start enforcing at 10% +2mph, that also assumes the speedometer over-reads by some amount. That may or may not be the case - it might be bob on. 
Comparing the Speedometer in My old E46 BMW with a GPS speed reading over a long stretch of motorway at "slightly above the speed limit" speeds, the speedometer was only 1mph out to the GPS speed.
I did the same check over the same section of motorway another day in a Ferrari 348 at the same speed and the speedometer was over reading by @ 15mph.
OP: I'm not sure if "she" is your wife or your partner, but if her driving is being affected that badly due to being pregnant, "she" needs to stop driving immediately before she has a serious accident!
(Think about it - She's already driven through a red light at 20 mph which means she wasn't even trying to stop in time for the light. What if a vehicle had driven through their green light at speed as she drove through the red light? Or if it was a pedestrian crossing light, what if someone had stepped off the pavement to cross the road thinking it was safe to do so due to the red light?)
4rephill said:
SS2. said:
ashleyman said:
So if you're driving to a speedo 79 you should still be fine. So to get caught at 79 the speedo speed would have been 80+?
As well as assuming they start enforcing at 10% +2mph, that also assumes the speedometer over-reads by some amount. That may or may not be the case - it might be bob on. Comparing the Speedometer in My old E46 BMW with a GPS speed reading over a long stretch of motorway at "slightly above the speed limit" speeds, the speedometer was only 1mph out to the GPS speed.
I did the same check over the same section of motorway another day in a Ferrari 348 at the same speed and the speedometer was over reading by @ 15mph.
OP: I'm not sure if "she" is your wife or your partner, but if her driving is being affected that badly due to being pregnant, "she" needs to stop driving immediately before she has a serious accident!
(Think about it - She's already driven through a red light at 20 mph which means she wasn't even trying to stop in time for the light. What if a vehicle had driven through their green light at speed as she drove through the red light? Or if it was a pedestrian crossing light, what if someone had stepped off the pavement to cross the road thinking it was safe to do so due to the red light?)
ol said:
The red light incident was on a roundabout onto a motorway, and she claims there were HGV's next to her and she didn't see the light changing, and was going with the flow of the traffic. It wasn't like she just drove through a red light, it was just changing. Not good I agree, but she's actually a great driver, and has never had any points on her licence ever, until this year when they've all dropped in at once!
Red light cameras have a delay, so assuming this is a camera, then yes, she did drive through a red light and no it wasn't just changing.Also, amber means stop too, so even if it was 'just changing', she should have also stopped
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