Giving a number plate to someone else
Giving a number plate to someone else
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JumboBeef

Original Poster:

3,772 posts

207 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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I'm sure the answer is out there and I'm just being dim/blind.....

I have a number on retention. It is in my name, my address and on retention (V778).

I would like to give it to someone else (a bit more complicated than that but that bit is irrelevant: simpler to say I just want to give it to someone else).

I can see how to change MY address. I can see how to add a Nominee's name. But I cannot see how I can remove me completely from it, and have it only in the other person's name and their address.

This bit of the DVLA website doesn't seem to answer the question:

https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...

As I say, I'm sure I'm missing something here as there must be a way to do it.

rewc

2,187 posts

263 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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See section 4 in the link;
"If you do not want to become the Grantee, for example you are
giving the vehicle registration number as a gift, give the details
of who should be the Grantee in the box below. This means
that as the registered keeper, you will give up the right to
the vehicle registration number."
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

Steve57

2,174 posts

272 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Are they having it put onto a vehicle or retention? the easiest way i have seen it done is just assign it onto the car of choice, ownership of said plate then transfers to the RK in my experience. i put my own plate on my last work vehicle, when removed it came back in the company name.

V8LM

5,560 posts

239 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Yes, not sure you can change the grantee directly (because you are not the grantor). Either name them as a nominee and then transfer onto thier car, or transfer onto your car and then off again naming them as the grantee.

Red Devil

13,516 posts

238 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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JumboBeef said:
I can see how to change MY address. I can see how to add a Nominee's name. But I cannot see how I can remove me completely from it, and have it only in the other person's name and their address.
V8LM is correct: you can't.

rewc said:
See section 4 in the link;
"If you do not want to become the Grantee, for example you are
giving the vehicle registration number as a gift, give the details
of who should be the Grantee in the box below. This means
that as the registered keeper, you will give up the right to
the vehicle registration number."
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
The problem with this is that the OP has the VRM on retention so he is already the Grantee.
The V778 makes no provision for a Grantee to pass on that status to someone else.

What the Grantee has to do is make the recipient the Nominee. See Section A on the back of the V778.

This vehicle registration number can only be assigned to a vehicle that:

- is registered or about to be registered in Great Britain in your name or in the name of your Nominee. If you assign this vehicle registration number to your nominee's vehicle, entitlement to this vehicle registration number passes to them as they are the registered keeper.

Most people don't appreciate that the entitlement only passes when the VRM is assigned to a specific vehicle.

OP, for the avoidance of doubt contact the DVLA, Personalised Registrations section: 0300 123 0883.

Patrick Bateman

13,184 posts

204 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Reviving this here.

I'm looking to do just this with giving cat220 his personal reg. back.

Do I have to fill out the nominee details and send it away to the DVLA for an updated document before sending him the retention document?

Red Devil

13,516 posts

238 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Depends on whether he has a vehicle he wants to put it on straight away.
If so, you can do it for him online - https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...
Once that is done, and only then, he acquires the rights to it.

If he doesn't have a vehicle to assign it to yet you'll have add him as a nominee by post.
The V778 will come back to you because he has no rights to the VRM until it assigned to a vehicle of which he is the RK.
Therefore if you intend to give him the V778 you'll need to sign it in Section 1.
Leave it undated (for him to fill in later) and leave the VRM box blank.

All you need to know here.
https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...
http://www.simplyregistrations.co.uk/blog/grantee-...

Patrick Bateman

13,184 posts

204 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Just to be clear then, I do have to send it away to the DVLA first, listing him as the nominee (signing section 6).

I then get back an updated V778 with him listed as the nominee and then I sign section 1 and can send it to him?

Red Devil

13,516 posts

238 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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I don't know how to make it any clearer. smile

As I said, it depends on whether his intention is to assign it straight away or not.
If the latter then yes, you will have to make a postal application to make him the nominee.
Subsequently giving him the V778 does not transfer to him any rights whatsoever to the VRM.
They remain with you, the Grantee, until it is assigned to a vehicle registered to him.
Until then, the DVLA will only recognise you as the legimate 'owner'* of the mark.

In this latter scenario any buyer has to trust the seller because they may be over paying money for which the rights have not transferred.
That is also the reason why, if you want to keep a cherished VRM, you [b]must[/i] put it on retention first (or transfer it to another vehicle of yours).
If you don't, as soon as DVLA records the change of RK the new owner obtains the rights to it.

Patrick Bateman

13,184 posts

204 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Cheers. Handy to check as when I spoke to the DVLA they just said to fill in his name as the nominee, sign and it and post it to him, nothing about sending it to them first.

Red Devil

13,516 posts

238 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Patrick Bateman said:
Cheers. Handy to check as when I spoke to the DVLA they just said to fill in his name as the nominee, sign and it and post it to him, nothing about sending it to them first.
Fair enough: don't see why that wouldn't work. thumbup

In my case I was making my son the nominee so that I could make a gift of the VRM to him in due course.
Hence I wanted the V778 with the 'Not Applicable ' box amended to come back to me. smile

Patrick Bateman

13,184 posts

204 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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Turns out he's wanting to put it back on another car anyway so that makes things easier.

Red Devil

13,516 posts

238 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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If he were to provide the relevant info you could do it for him online. smile - https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...

Patrick Bateman

13,184 posts

204 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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Yeah that was the plan.