Digital mot tax doesn't work
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Just seeing a lot of cars without one or both, a lot of unmot!ed cars.
New starters car had bald tyres and mot run out a few weeks ago.
Then a member of staff who noticed this checked her own as her ex bf said he moted and tax it a few months ago. She has had not mot or tax since 2nd Feb and hasn't received a fine for non sorn.
She was stopped by police I April fro doing 40 in a 30 and took a speed awareness course. Police looked at car and seemed to check everything.
How is it that bad!
New starters car had bald tyres and mot run out a few weeks ago.
Then a member of staff who noticed this checked her own as her ex bf said he moted and tax it a few months ago. She has had not mot or tax since 2nd Feb and hasn't received a fine for non sorn.
She was stopped by police I April fro doing 40 in a 30 and took a speed awareness course. Police looked at car and seemed to check everything.
How is it that bad!
I posted this on another thread but a neighbour is still driving around in his 2010 3 series with an MOT that expired in January and when he eventually tested it in early May, it failed on a number of serious things including both rear tyres being worn down past the legal limit to the point that the canvas was showing.
He's since fitted 2 budget part worn tyres, not bothered to fix any of the other issues that the car failed on and hasn't retested the car. As a result of the MOT expiry the car isn't taxed either. Given that the car is driven everyday he's doing well with 6 months and counting and not being pulled by Police, etc, so ANPR is clearly working efficiently.
He's since fitted 2 budget part worn tyres, not bothered to fix any of the other issues that the car failed on and hasn't retested the car. As a result of the MOT expiry the car isn't taxed either. Given that the car is driven everyday he's doing well with 6 months and counting and not being pulled by Police, etc, so ANPR is clearly working efficiently.
Edited by AlexRS2782 on Tuesday 19th July 18:19
Andyjc86 said:
I quiet regularly drive cars (legally) to MOTs for customers that have no tax, insurance or MOT. Once I drove a car that hadn't been used for 3 years to an MOT, a police car followed me for about 5 minutes, before turning off elsewhere.
Hmm,I think you've missed the point of this thread.
The OP is not talking about the one, single, specific legal clause that allows a road worthy car without tax or an MOT to be driven on the road to a pre-booked MOT (insurance needs to be in place for that journey, and as you state your customers don't have it, this is no doubt your own trade policy).
No, he's talking about people who regularly use their cars without regard to these legal requirements. Unless you're putting forward the view that all of these journeys are being made to pre-booked MOTs?
I'm surprised people get away with this for so long, but I guess endless re-runs of Driving Wars on Quest is not a real reflection on the country's policing.
Ian
I've never much cared about MOT's, if ever I had a vehicle fail it would be on a technical triviality and not a safety issue. They all, when used, get pushed a bit so any issues would be picked up on fairly quickly. And I know my vehicles well enough, they are all well maintained.
I just went online to tax the car (doesn't see a lot of use). I half-expected no MOT. It ran out August '15.
I just went online to tax the car (doesn't see a lot of use). I half-expected no MOT. It ran out August '15.
Alucidnation said:
Wow go you, stickin' it to the man eh?
If your cars are in such fantastic condition and well maintained, I don't understand what is difficult about making sure it has an MOT.
I'm not particularly bothered about sticking it to anyone. The car in question has only done 1500 miles since the last MOT in August 2013. Why do I care? They're every 2 years in France. It's a technicality that only really makes a difference with owners that are clueless. Plenty of them that use MOTs to keep them alive, but I'm not one of those. I'll MOT my vehicles if I can't tax them.If your cars are in such fantastic condition and well maintained, I don't understand what is difficult about making sure it has an MOT.
Riley Blue said:
If you're so concerned, phone the police's non-emergency number: 101.
Will they be bothered- NO- they MIGHT attend if you can tell them that a car etc is parked up with no TAX/MOT( nice easy little work, other than paperwork ), but as for checking on routes, forget it. I'd go as far as to say that cars with ANPR on board have it switched off when travelling through estates- it might mean extra paperwork. Town centres- that's a different kettle of fish- but that is to keep the "figures " up for proof that the policy is working, or a nil figure makes it look that the policy works as no illegal cars are detected, and justify the money spent on enforcement. Car on our road, parked on the road shows no TAX or MOT, seems unlikely it would have insurance (can you check that?) Advised Plod on 101, they just refer it to DVLA or Local council, they are not intrested at all. Reported to DVLA twice, so far no visit and council don't seem intrested either... all too much work.
Ian Geary said:
Andyjc86 said:
I quiet regularly drive cars (legally) to MOTs for customers that have no tax, insurance or MOT. Once I drove a car that hadn't been used for 3 years to an MOT, a police car followed me for about 5 minutes, before turning off elsewhere.
Hmm,I think you've missed the point of this thread.
The OP is not talking about the one, single, specific legal clause that allows a road worthy car without tax or an MOT to be driven on the road to a pre-booked MOT (insurance needs to be in place for that journey, and as you state your customers don't have it, this is no doubt your own trade policy).
No, he's talking about people who regularly use their cars without regard to these legal requirements. Unless you're putting forward the view that all of these journeys are being made to pre-booked MOTs?
I'm surprised people get away with this for so long, but I guess endless re-runs of Driving Wars on Quest is not a real reflection on the country's policing.
Ian
Alucidnation said:
Wow go you, stickin' it to the man eh?
If your cars are in such fantastic condition and well maintained, I don't understand what is difficult about making sure it has an MOT.
Minor trivial things like tyres below 1.6mm, engine is sweet as a nut, whats the mot tester on about.If your cars are in such fantastic condition and well maintained, I don't understand what is difficult about making sure it has an MOT.
Whats a technicality? Bulb out or non complaint number plate?
I don't think our MOT is that rigorous.
DervVW said:
Car on our road, parked on the road shows no TAX or MOT, seems unlikely it would have insurance (can you check that?) Advised Plod on 101, they just refer it to DVLA or Local council, they are not intrested at all. Reported to DVLA twice, so far no visit and council don't seem intrested either... all too much work.
We had the same, we assumed it had been dumped. We contacted the council but they said it was taxed so that was OK. It was there for a year, we contacted the council again as clearly it now had no MOT, therefore no tax. Within a week the owner (we assume) moved it. Andyjc86 said:
The point I was trying to make, is that the cars are not taxed, insured or MOT'd, yet when followed by a police car nothing happened. Their on board ANPRs should have been going mad.
Not all Police cars are fitted with ANPR, and if there is no specific reason to PNC a car whilst it is being followed then it wont be getting a tug.Mammasaid said:
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