Facebook and the 'law' on posting pictures of underage crims
Facebook and the 'law' on posting pictures of underage crims
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matjk

Original Poster:

1,112 posts

170 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Local business just had some cars damaged , got it on CCTV and got a picture of them , look about 12 years old! He posted on the local Facebook page to indentify them . Now loads of local mums saying he's broken the law ! Post has been pulled ect ect . But I'm sure there is no actual law that has been broken or is there and what's it called ??

George111

6,930 posts

281 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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No law prevents it.

https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/

"An organisation may need to disclose CCTV images for legal reasons - for example, crime detection. Once they have given the images to another organisation, then that organisation must adhere to the Data Protection Act in their handling of the images."

So if FB decide they can't publish it then it gets pulled down but it would be interesting to know why they felt the need to do this in this instance.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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George111 said:
So if FB decide they can't publish it then it gets pulled down but it would be interesting to know why they felt the need to do this in this instance.
Arse-covering.

Anyway, it is explicitly illegal to do anything which might upset any under 18, no matter how much of a theiving scrote they are, under the Think-of-the-Childruuuun! Act 2004. The maximum penalty is being whinged to death by irate mothers.

WatchfulEye

505 posts

158 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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George111 said:
The relevant quote from that page is:

ICO said:
CCTV operators are not allowed to disclose images of identifiable people to the media - or to put them on the internet - for entertainment. Images released to the media to help identify a person are usually disclosed by the police.

George111

6,930 posts

281 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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WatchfulEye said:
George111 said:
The relevant quote from that page is:

ICO said:
CCTV operators are not allowed to disclose images of identifiable people to the media - or to put them on the internet - for entertainment. Images released to the media to help identify a person are usually disclosed by the police.
No, I quoted the relevant paragraph above - the poster was trying to solve a crime, no ?

matjk

Original Poster:

1,112 posts

170 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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In this case he didn't post the CCTV footage, just a phone picture as he caught them in the act but they refused to stay, so it's a picture rather than video (if that has a bearing)

WatchfulEye

505 posts

158 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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George111 said:
No, I quoted the relevant paragraph above - the poster was trying to solve a crime, no ?
Except that in that case, it is the police who have the mandate to solve crimes, not members of the general public.

George111

6,930 posts

281 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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WatchfulEye said:
George111 said:
No, I quoted the relevant paragraph above - the poster was trying to solve a crime, no ?
Except that in that case, it is the police who have the mandate to solve crimes, not members of the general public.
Not necessarily - we can all try to solve crimes, it's not an art specific to the plod.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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If the recording contain identifiable images and the police are willing to receive the footage and investigate, it's better not to put it into the public domain and risk prejudicing any criminal proceedings.

If it hasn't yet been made public and is being used as evidence in criminal proceedings, you would potentially be commiting an offence by making it public without permission.

George111

6,930 posts

281 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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janesmith1950 said:
If the recording contain identifiable images and the police are willing to receive the footage and investigate, it's better not to put it into the public domain and risk prejudicing any criminal proceedings.

If it hasn't yet been made public and is being used as evidence in criminal proceedings, you would potentially be commiting an offence by making it public without permission.
The police don't have time to investigate every crime - they ought to, that's what we pay for but they don't have the resources for one reason or another, so anything we can do to catch thieves, vandals, violent scroats etc is going to be good . . . . getting off our back sides can only be good.

New tech like Facebook, love it or hate it, gives us a fantastic opportunity to share information which can identify these troublemakers so it's our duty in fact to utilise these things to make our lives and our society safer.

The law specifically does not exclude this being done, in fact the paragraph I quoted above specifically permits this to be done, so lets get on with it and get these people identified, hand the info to the police so they can be arrested and processed - that's in all of our interests.