Austrian Speeding fine.
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This is a first for me - our company has received a speeding fine from Austria going back to early this summer. The notice is all in German, but caught at 71 in a 60kmh area. The fine is 45 Euro, but there is no method of payment offered - google translate suggests that it can be paid at a local "civil station" though - I assume this is police station, town hall or post office.
The hirer of the vehicle is now in liquidation so we have no chance of recovery anyway, and the vehicle has long since gone back to the manufacturer and HPI shows it has had two keeper changes since we disposed of it.
Firstly, I wasn't aware there was any sort of reciprocal agreement with the DVLA and foreign agencies, typically we get them transferred through from Norway, Hungary, Ireland and the Netherlands via EPC Plc who make up the rules as they go along...
But since we have no chance of reimbursememt for what seems like a lot of faff for little gain, if this document were perhaps to get "mis-filed", could I ended up being extradited to Joseph Fritzls cellar for some VBRJ interrogation by an Oom-pa band?
The hirer of the vehicle is now in liquidation so we have no chance of recovery anyway, and the vehicle has long since gone back to the manufacturer and HPI shows it has had two keeper changes since we disposed of it.
Firstly, I wasn't aware there was any sort of reciprocal agreement with the DVLA and foreign agencies, typically we get them transferred through from Norway, Hungary, Ireland and the Netherlands via EPC Plc who make up the rules as they go along...
But since we have no chance of reimbursememt for what seems like a lot of faff for little gain, if this document were perhaps to get "mis-filed", could I ended up being extradited to Joseph Fritzls cellar for some VBRJ interrogation by an Oom-pa band?
No way to contact the authority that sent the fine to ask them?
If you ignored it, I imagine there would just be the small chance you get pulled out of passport line if you ever went to Austria; and told to pay up.
But if it was your company, I doubt they could prosecute you personally?
Lots of missing details. But if you're worried, chase up with the Austrian Authorities.
If you ignored it, I imagine there would just be the small chance you get pulled out of passport line if you ever went to Austria; and told to pay up.
But if it was your company, I doubt they could prosecute you personally?
Lots of missing details. But if you're worried, chase up with the Austrian Authorities.
Just out of interest, how did they find your details to send the fine? Presumably from DVLA from when you were registered keeper?
I assume it's all governed by Austrian traffic law? I wonder how that works? Is the driver liable, the owner, the RK (if they have a concept of RK in Austrian law)?
Interesting. Sorry I've just got curiosity, not any useful info.
Bert
I assume it's all governed by Austrian traffic law? I wonder how that works? Is the driver liable, the owner, the RK (if they have a concept of RK in Austrian law)?
Interesting. Sorry I've just got curiosity, not any useful info.
Bert
S11Steve said:
This is a first for me - our company has received a speeding fine from Austria going back to early this summer. The notice is all in German, but caught at 71 in a 60kmh area. The fine is 45 Euro, but there is no method of payment offered - google translate suggests that it can be paid at a local "civil station" though - I assume this is police station, town hall or post office.
The hirer of the vehicle is now in liquidation so we have no chance of recovery anyway, and the vehicle has long since gone back to the manufacturer and HPI shows it has had two keeper changes since we disposed of it.
Firstly, I wasn't aware there was any sort of reciprocal agreement with the DVLA and foreign agencies, typically we get them transferred through from Norway, Hungary, Ireland and the Netherlands via EPC Plc who make up the rules as they go along...
But since we have no chance of reimbursememt for what seems like a lot of faff for little gain, if this document were perhaps to get "mis-filed", could I ended up being extradited to Joseph Fritzls cellar for some VBRJ interrogation by an Oom-pa band?
I wouldn't have lost any sleep over it tbh - http://www.itsinternational.com/categories/enforce...The hirer of the vehicle is now in liquidation so we have no chance of recovery anyway, and the vehicle has long since gone back to the manufacturer and HPI shows it has had two keeper changes since we disposed of it.
Firstly, I wasn't aware there was any sort of reciprocal agreement with the DVLA and foreign agencies, typically we get them transferred through from Norway, Hungary, Ireland and the Netherlands via EPC Plc who make up the rules as they go along...
But since we have no chance of reimbursememt for what seems like a lot of faff for little gain, if this document were perhaps to get "mis-filed", could I ended up being extradited to Joseph Fritzls cellar for some VBRJ interrogation by an Oom-pa band?
Note this bit for when the UK has to comply with the cross-border requirements (at present we don't as we opted out of the original regulations).
Linked article said:
If the authorities in the Member State where the offence has been committed decide to prosecute the offender, they will send an information letter to the owner of the registration certificate as identified through the information exchange system. This information letter must be written in the State of registration’s language and it must include details about the nature of the offence, the date and time of detection, the relevant piece of legislation infringed and the legal consequences of the offence.
In other words, when the amended/replacement Directive has to be implemented by the UK, if the vehicle is registered here the letter will have to be in English.S11Steve said:
The vehicle was one of the rental fleet that I manage, and it has since been sold - there are no personal details attached to the fine, just the company name.
I've since emailed the mailbox on the paperwork in English and some pigeon Germa, so will see what comes back.
In the UK only the driver can be convicted of speeding, hence S.172. I have no idea what the law is in Austria. I reckon staying below the parapet might have been the best approach. They now know that they have a live one, but what they can realistically do to you I do not know.I've since emailed the mailbox on the paperwork in English and some pigeon Germa, so will see what comes back.
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