Fact or Fiction; Long distance Gatso/lazer speed device?

[7795]

Don't shoot the messenger, but does this sound feasible? I got it from a credible source who works in the court circuits (prosecution).

An automated speed detection type device, forward facing, that can do the same job a traffic cop can do with a hand-held radar gun at the same sort of distances? It would be mounted high or on overpasses/gantrys and digital. It's called a FOLD/FORLD or similar from memory; I didn't get the spelling.

Currently being tested in Holland and numerous forces in the UK, France, Germany, Belgium and US, inc. Avon & Somerset, Northumberland Police interested in it.

I'm happy for anyone who has never sped to say "just don't speed".

Has anyone heard of this device as Google (other search engines are available!!) the 2nd most reliable speed information source on the internet has turned up nothing. Over to the most reliable, PH!

[Vipers]

The day will come when cars have built in speed sensors and wifi back to old bill..........

[esxste]

Vipers said:

The day will come when cars have built in speed sensors and wifi back to old bill..........

Probably not before the days where the car drives itself

[drf765]

7795 said:

Don't shoot the messenger, but does this sound feasible? I got it from a credible source who works in the court circuits (prosecution).

An automated speed detection type device, forward facing, that can do the same job a traffic cop can do with a hand-held radar gun at the same sort of distances? It would be mounted high or on overpasses/gantrys and digital. It's called a FOLD/FORLD or similar from memory; I didn't get the spelling.

Currently being tested in Holland and numerous forces in the UK, France, Germany, Belgium and US, inc. Avon & Somerset, Northumberland Police interested in it.

I'm happy for anyone who has never sped to say "just don't speed".

Has anyone heard of this device as Google (other search engines are available!!) the 2nd most reliable speed information source on the internet has turned up nothing. Over to the most reliable, PH!

Perhaps you need to work out how you get "credible" in terms of trial enforcement equipment to relate to information gleaned from someone who works in the court circuits.

The courts deal with existing equipment and have nothing to do with trial equipment.

Before you research the equipment further you should perhaps reconsider the validity of the information you already have.

Edited to add:

7795 said:

...the 2nd most reliable speed information source on the internet...

Where's that then?

Edited by drf765 on Wednesday 4th January 11:33

[Vaud]

While I don't know anything about the device suggested, it is only a matter of time before such devices become affordable an accurate enough for enforcement. The tech is available now and automated / machine learning systems can already do the majority of the image analysis.

But the public push back might be similar to the dead National Road Pricing Scheme if they became prevalent.

[drf765]

Vaud said:

While I don't know anything about the device suggested, it is only a matter of time before such devices become affordable an accurate enough for enforcement. The tech is available now and automated / machine learning systems can already do the majority of the image analysis.

But the public push back might be similar to the dead National Road Pricing Scheme if they became prevalent.

While technology may be developed to be capable of such a system I am struggling to see why a system like that would be deployed and for what purpose.

Maybe the guy at the court could let us know.

[Terminator X]

ANPR will get us all eventually once the number of camera's tips over a certain level eg ANPR always averaging our speed between 2 points. Camera's also fairly small too so hard to spot. Afaik they trialled something up North a while back (Speedspike) albeit unsure what has happened to it since:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267278/Ne...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/road-sa...

TX.

[Vaud]

drf765 said:

While technology may be developed to be capable of such a system I am struggling to see why a system like that would be deployed and for what purpose.

Probably for the same reason existing speed cameras were - automation at an affordable level, deployed to high risk areas (apparently)

[drf765]

Terminator X said:

ANPR will get us all eventually once the number of camera's tips over a certain level eg ANPR always averaging our speed between 2 points. Camera's also fairly small too so hard to spot. Afaik they trialled something up North a while back (Speedspike) albeit unsure what has happened to it since:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267278/Ne...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/road-sa...

TX.

Yes it was on trial "up north" in Cornwall and London. Been approved since 2011 and now owned by 3M.

I'm not sure how the Daily Mail applied the information about satellites tracking the vehicles; it doesn't detract from their dismal accuracy record at that news outlet.

[George111]

Vaud said:

drf765 said:

While technology may be developed to be capable of such a system I am struggling to see why a system like that would be deployed and for what purpose.

Probably for the same reason existing speed cameras were - automation cash collection at an affordable level, deployed to high risk income areas (apparently)

Looks more accurate now.

[TooMany2cvs]

7795 said:

...can do the same job a traffic cop can do with a hand-held radar gun at the same sort of distances?...

It can stop the car, do an attitude test on the driver, and pick up any other offences at the same time?

Wow. Impressed.

Oh. It's just another type of camera, not at all like a real live plod in a stripy Volvo? Disappointed.