UKPC Parking Charge
Discussion
Hi,
I need a little help with a parking charge from UKPC. I've tried reading up on Pepioo but I'm still not 100% clear, I've also registered for the forums but I seem to have issue activating my account.
Details:
I parked on a car-park that is privately owned but manged by UKPC.
I received a "Parking Charge" of £100 for not displaying a valid pay and display ticket. I'd paid in full (over actually) but put the receipt in the window, rather than the ticket (my fault I know).
Should I appeal, just ignore or pay up? As I said, I've read what I can on Pepioo but i'm not 100% sure
Thanks in advance.
I need a little help with a parking charge from UKPC. I've tried reading up on Pepioo but I'm still not 100% clear, I've also registered for the forums but I seem to have issue activating my account.
Details:
I parked on a car-park that is privately owned but manged by UKPC.
I received a "Parking Charge" of £100 for not displaying a valid pay and display ticket. I'd paid in full (over actually) but put the receipt in the window, rather than the ticket (my fault I know).
Should I appeal, just ignore or pay up? As I said, I've read what I can on Pepioo but i'm not 100% sure
Thanks in advance.
If you still have the ticket, I'd suggest that you send a copy of it and maybe they will try to deal with it sensibly. If they refuse to cancel it, then they should issue a POPLA code, and this is an easy win.
However, this is UKPC - they just want the £100 and will hound you til they get it or they get told by POPLA or a judge to stop.
However, this is UKPC - they just want the £100 and will hound you til they get it or they get told by POPLA or a judge to stop.
Oh boy. You just bought back some bad memories
A few years ago I received many tickets from these guys for a car I had sold therefore I was not liable, they didn't give a fig and continued to pursue me. They hounded me to death.
I advise do not send them anything original it will never get to the right person (Send copies or scans through their website), their appeals process is a joke, they rejected everything I sent, their customer service "helpline" is a joke, it's just a payments collection service and nothing you say will get you through to a person whom will help.
I ended up with the debt passed to a collections company and found them surprisingly helpful and they cancelled the charge really promptly.
The best of luck with your case.
A few years ago I received many tickets from these guys for a car I had sold therefore I was not liable, they didn't give a fig and continued to pursue me. They hounded me to death.
I advise do not send them anything original it will never get to the right person (Send copies or scans through their website), their appeals process is a joke, they rejected everything I sent, their customer service "helpline" is a joke, it's just a payments collection service and nothing you say will get you through to a person whom will help.
I ended up with the debt passed to a collections company and found them surprisingly helpful and they cancelled the charge really promptly.
The best of luck with your case.
S11Steve said:
If you still have the ticket, I'd suggest that you send a copy of it and maybe they will try to deal with it sensibly. If they refuse to cancel it, then they should issue a POPLA code, and this is an easy win.
However, this is UKPC - they just want the £100 and will hound you til they get it or they get told by POPLA or a judge to stop.
Yea this is my thought so far. However, this is UKPC - they just want the £100 and will hound you til they get it or they get told by POPLA or a judge to stop.
Vipers said:
I assume this was not in Scotland?
Nope, Sunny Didcot S11Steve said:
If you still have the ticket, I'd suggest that you send a copy of it and maybe they will try to deal with it sensibly. If they refuse to cancel it, then they should issue a POPLA code, and this is an easy win.
However, this is UKPC - they just want the £100 and will hound you til they get it or they get told by POPLA or a judge to stop.
Do you mean that POPLA automatically side with the driver if they have bought a ticket but failed to display?However, this is UKPC - they just want the £100 and will hound you til they get it or they get told by POPLA or a judge to stop.
Well there is proof that no loss was incurred, and it can be argued that the Beavis ruling does not apply in this instance, therefore Genuine Pre Estimate Of Loss can be used. UKPC photographic evidence, if there is any, can also be called in question - they have form after all.
POPLA Mk2 though has made a few fundamental errors recently - they are nowhere near as consistent as POPLA v1 when it was run by a different body.
POPLA Mk2 though has made a few fundamental errors recently - they are nowhere near as consistent as POPLA v1 when it was run by a different body.
S11Steve said:
Well there is proof that no loss was incurred, and it can be argued that the Beavis ruling does not apply in this instance, therefore Genuine Pre Estimate Of Loss can be used. UKPC photographic evidence, if there is any, can also be called in question - they have form after all.
POPLA Mk2 though has made a few fundamental errors recently - they are nowhere near as consistent as POPLA v1 when it was run by a different body.
I think Beavis would apply here.POPLA Mk2 though has made a few fundamental errors recently - they are nowhere near as consistent as POPLA v1 when it was run by a different body.
The charge is for breach of contract, the failure to display.
PurpleMoonlight said:
I think Beavis would apply here.
The charge is for breach of contract, the failure to display.
One of the points made in the Beavis judgement was that it was specific to free car parks where the parking company is the principle. P&D can not use the "commercially justifiable" argument when the car park is revenue earning, the PPC do not need to cover their costs from PCNs when they have a steady stream of coins going into a machine.The charge is for breach of contract, the failure to display.
And if it is a UKPC alleged contract... well, enough said.
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