absurd laws
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mickmcpaddy

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1,445 posts

135 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greate...

Now I'm no lover of criminal behaviour and would not bat an eyelid if the lot of them were put up against a wall and shot tomorrow but the above to me is so insanely stupid it beggars belief.

A stupid girl has been texting someone who is in prison and nearly ended up there herself because of it. How can she be in any way responsible for her boyfriend using a phone illegally in jail. If they don't want scum in prison to have phones then maybe the guards should do something about it, the prisoners sleep in a 3x3 cell, how hard can it be to locate a phone.

House raided and career ruined because she sent a text to another person. Maybe if she wants to text someone in the future she should do it whilst driving, much less severe sentence if she stick to doing that.

Derek Smith

49,919 posts

278 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Are you suggesting that assisting the commission of an offence is an absurd law?


KevinCamaroSS

13,843 posts

310 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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mickmcpaddy said:
A stupid girl has been texting someone who is in prison and nearly ended up there herself because of it. How can she be in any way responsible for her boyfriend using a phone illegally in jail.
Perhaps because she knew he was in prison and was sending him texts expecting him to receive them?

mickmcpaddy

Original Poster:

1,445 posts

135 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Derek Smith said:
Are you suggesting that assisting the commission of an offence is an absurd law?
Don't even know what it means, although I find it stupid that a girl can get into trouble for texting a phone that someone shouldn't have because the guards are too incompetent to take it off him.

Suppose my mate has been drinking and I text him to come and pick me up, is it my fault he is stupid enough to drink drive, should I go to prison for texting him? To me it looks like an easy target again.

Drumroll

4,538 posts

150 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Simple she knew he was in prison and he should not of had a phone. Therefore she is in the wrong. Whilst it may have been all lovey dovey, how do we know there wasn't some code in the messages?


anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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mickmcpaddy said:
Derek Smith said:
Are you suggesting that assisting the commission of an offence is an absurd law?
Don't even know what it means, although I find it stupid that a girl can get into trouble for texting a phone that someone shouldn't have because the guards are too incompetent to take it off him.

Suppose my mate has been drinking and I text him to come and pick me up, is it my fault he is stupid enough to drink drive, should I go to prison for texting him? To me it looks like an easy target again.
I don't think you have any idea how hard it is for prison guards.

It's a two way street and clearly there's the risk of escalation i.e. him 'tasking' her to do things on his behalf or facilitating him communicating with people whom he should not be.

It's in the public interest to discourage people to communicate with people in prison in this manner.

konark

1,241 posts

149 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Must've been a 'cell' phone. getmecoat

Derek Smith

49,919 posts

278 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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mickmcpaddy said:
Derek Smith said:
Are you suggesting that assisting the commission of an offence is an absurd law?
Don't even know what it means, although I find it stupid that a girl can get into trouble for texting a phone that someone shouldn't have because the guards are too incompetent to take it off him.

Suppose my mate has been drinking and I text him to come and pick me up, is it my fault he is stupid enough to drink drive, should I go to prison for texting him? To me it looks like an easy target again.
I don't think it relevant that prison officers were unable to stop smuggled goods getting into prison. She knew he was committing an offence. She said so. Without her connivance there would not have been an offence at all, only an attempt.

She's attractive, young and very lucky not to have been more seriously punished.


Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

143 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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It is absurd it got to court. How has replying to a text helped him commit an offence?? He is the one choosing to break prison rules by possessing and using a mobile phone.

Now if shed given him the phone or topped it up i could understand.

The sentance is rediculous as well. People get less for various violent crimes with real victims.

Brads67

3,199 posts

128 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Utterly ridiculous and she should never have been prosecuted for it.
Easy target that would make the papers and "convince" others not to do the same.

Neonblau

875 posts

163 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Psycho Warren said:
It is absurd it got to court. How has replying to a text helped him commit an offence?? He is the one choosing to break prison rules by possessing and using a mobile phone.

Now if shed given him the phone or topped it up i could understand.

The sentance is rediculous as well. People get less for various violent crimes with real victims.
The spelling and grammar police will be coming after you.

TVR1

5,478 posts

255 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Brads67 said:
Utterly ridiculous and she should never have been prosecuted for it.
Easy target that would make the papers and "convince" others not to do the same.
That's rather the point. Guess which of the 3 principles of sentencing this one falls into...

1. Retribution

2. Rehabilitation

3. Deterrence

4. Reparation...


No, there are 4 principles.

Oh, you get my gist.....






Edited by TVR1 on Thursday 26th January 22:23

andy_s

19,856 posts

289 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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I can't muster much sympathy I'm afraid.