Is the future Automated Road Policing by numbers?
Discussion
The Police Federation Roads Policing Conference draws to a close today, and I wonder if in the light of reducing funding, and closure of some forces Road Polcing Units, if the future will become automated policing by camera and ANPR, for a whle range of offences, such as no tax, no insurance, no MoT and of course speeding, and even goods vehicles that are overweight.
Teletraffic and Siemens had a presence at the conference, and their equipment is becoming more and more capable of full automation in detecting and recording the offence.
We have seen attempts to make cameras capable of detecting drivers travelling too close to the vehicle in front, so it seems to me that there is an enthusiasm for camera enforcement, whatever the pitfalls... but isn't there that some offences such driving without due care etc., would be or perhaps already are in danger of being unaddressed?
Teletraffic and Siemens had a presence at the conference, and their equipment is becoming more and more capable of full automation in detecting and recording the offence.
We have seen attempts to make cameras capable of detecting drivers travelling too close to the vehicle in front, so it seems to me that there is an enthusiasm for camera enforcement, whatever the pitfalls... but isn't there that some offences such driving without due care etc., would be or perhaps already are in danger of being unaddressed?
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I bet all the criminals are shaking in their boots at the thought of cloning a car and the chances of ever getting caught being minimal.
Unless they are completely networked and if it detects two plates the same in different locations at the same time pinging the police to alert them to the fact it's impossible scenario.
I bet all the criminals are shaking in their boots at the thought of cloning a car and the chances of ever getting caught being minimal.
Unless they are completely networked and if it detects two plates the same in different locations at the same time pinging the police to alert them to the fact it's impossible scenario.
littlebasher said:
Considering that all one needs to do to avoid detection is clone the plate of an identical car, seems to me that enforcement by camera alone isn't going to be the panacea they claim it to be.
Nothing to stop you doing that now, except for the chance you might get pulled over by a real policeman!Mill Wheel said:
littlebasher said:
Considering that all one needs to do to avoid detection is clone the plate of an identical car, seems to me that enforcement by camera alone isn't going to be the panacea they claim it to be.
Nothing to stop you doing that now, except for the chance you might get pulled over by a real policeman!KevinCamaroSS said:
Actually, on a dismal note, there will be no need for roads policing at all when all cars are autonomous.
Hmm.. it's not like they ever prosecute pedestrians or cyclists for doing anything wrong... although I was told that there is a dedicated squad in London stopping cyclists for a range of offences, and giving them a stern lecture!But isn't it going to be a while before we have a fully autonomous road system?
KevinCamaroSS said:
Could be solved by each vehicle having an identification transmitter somewhere in it, much like an aircraft.
Wasn't there talk of that a few years back as part of an EU initiative? They were to be in the number plate, from what I vaguely remember. Time to get googling...Mill Wheel said:
Hmm.. it's not like they ever prosecute pedestrians or cyclists for doing anything wrong... although I was told that there is a dedicated squad in London stopping cyclists for a range of offences, and giving them a stern lecture!
OT but I know of people who have received a fine for jumping a red light on a bike. Was a little surprised they stopped when requested!Mill Wheel said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
Actually, on a dismal note, there will be no need for roads policing at all when all cars are autonomous.
Hmm.. it's not like they ever prosecute pedestrians or cyclists for doing anything wrong... although I was told that there is a dedicated squad in London stopping cyclists for a range of offences, and giving them a stern lecture!But isn't it going to be a while before we have a fully autonomous road system?
KevinCamaroSS said:
Mill Wheel said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
Actually, on a dismal note, there will be no need for roads policing at all when all cars are autonomous.
Hmm.. it's not like they ever prosecute pedestrians or cyclists for doing anything wrong... although I was told that there is a dedicated squad in London stopping cyclists for a range of offences, and giving them a stern lecture!But isn't it going to be a while before we have a fully autonomous road system?
vonhosen said:
If it is to happen it is likely to be within the driving lifetime of a lot of those who currently use the roads (At least on major trunk roads such as motorways)
But if you cannot have an autonomous vehicle to your own door, it is unlikely to catch on, as we already have buses and trains that don't require interaction with piloted vehicles... and allow people to travel long distances without driving.Mill Wheel said:
vonhosen said:
If it is to happen it is likely to be within the driving lifetime of a lot of those who currently use the roads (At least on major trunk roads such as motorways)
But if you cannot have an autonomous vehicle to your own door, it is unlikely to catch on, as we already have buses and trains that don't require interaction with piloted vehicles... and allow people to travel long distances without driving.Buses & trains you have to have walk or take different modes of transport with luggage movement considerations linking them up.
in your car the luggage goes with you in the car to the automated road & you'll be using the automated features on the roads that allow it. It's still a door to door service that will at the outset be part automated & will be added to over time.
dxg said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
Could be solved by each vehicle having an identification transmitter somewhere in it, much like an aircraft.
Wasn't there talk of that a few years back as part of an EU initiative? They were to be in the number plate, from what I vaguely remember. Time to get googling...Forums | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff