noise complaint against landlord
Discussion
Hi,just trying to support a local pub landlord i know.He is the most moralistic person i know,and he attracts the most normal,well balanced clientele i know.
He has a noise complaint (often) from the upstairs neighbour who has recently moved in above his pub.
The upstairs complaint surrounds a jukebox being played when a 'new' bar person was on and it slightly crept over the noise limit,which obviously horrified the landlord.
Despite the council rightfully getting the impression that the upstairs neighbour is a trouble maker(after several wasted/false complaints against the landlord about noise)where does the landlord stand legally?
If the upstairs tenant doesn't want noise,why stay above a pub?
He has a noise complaint (often) from the upstairs neighbour who has recently moved in above his pub.
The upstairs complaint surrounds a jukebox being played when a 'new' bar person was on and it slightly crept over the noise limit,which obviously horrified the landlord.
Despite the council rightfully getting the impression that the upstairs neighbour is a trouble maker(after several wasted/false complaints against the landlord about noise)where does the landlord stand legally?
If the upstairs tenant doesn't want noise,why stay above a pub?
Edited by robbocop33 on Sunday 5th February 21:53
t of the highest order.majordad said:
Maybe because he has a right to peace and quiet?
Like the people who buy a house at less than the market value because it's next to an airport and then complain about the airport noise I have little sympathy for anyone who moves to a flat over a pub and then 'expects' peace and quiet!robbocop33 said:
Hi,just trying to support a local pub landlord i know.He is the most moralistic person i know,and he attracts the most normal,well balanced clientele i know.
He has a noise complaint (often) from the upstairs neighbour who has recently moved in above his pub.
The upstairs complaint surrounds a jukebox being played when a 'new' bar person was on and it slightly crept over the noise limit, which obviously horrified the landlord.
Despite the council rightfully getting the impression that the upstairs neighbour is a trouble maker(after several wasted/false complaints against the landlord about noise)where does the landlord stand legally?
If the upstairs tenant doesn't want noise,why stay above a pub?
Why take on a pub that has a flat upstairs, if you're not prepared to run a quiet pub?He has a noise complaint (often) from the upstairs neighbour who has recently moved in above his pub.
The upstairs complaint surrounds a jukebox being played when a 'new' bar person was on and it slightly crept over the noise limit, which obviously horrified the landlord.
Despite the council rightfully getting the impression that the upstairs neighbour is a trouble maker(after several wasted/false complaints against the landlord about noise)where does the landlord stand legally?
If the upstairs tenant doesn't want noise,why stay above a pub?
If the pub is exceeding the amount of noise it is allowed to make, the neighbour can complain about that. Seems simple enough.
defblade said:
Why take on a pub that has a flat upstairs, if you're not prepared to run a quiet pub?
If the pub is exceeding the amount of noise it is allowed to make, the neighbour can complain about that. Seems simple enough.
I would instead look at re-doing the soundproofing/glazing if the building was done before modern regulations. There are some very noisy pubs/clubs with dance floors and loud music turned up on a Friday and Saturday where it can't be heard in the room above.If the pub is exceeding the amount of noise it is allowed to make, the neighbour can complain about that. Seems simple enough.
robbocop33 said:
The upstairs complaint surrounds a jukebox being played when a 'new' bar person was on and it slightly crept over the noise limit,which obviously horrified the landlord.
Was this a one-off thing, or even a series of occurances, which have now been addressed?I can't see a council taking action if the problem has been dealt with.
Sheepshanks said:
Was this a one-off thing, or even a series of occurances, which have now been addressed?
I can't see a council taking action if the problem has been dealt with.
You would gave to know this landlord just to understand just how much he plays by the book,he's a really straight down the line guy and he's getting really upset by this.I can't see a council taking action if the problem has been dealt with.
It takes us to even get him to turn on the jukebox!nevermind the upstairs neighbours hearing it.It was getting to the point the council were really getting to the point of realising the upstairs neighbours would complain 'often' and about absolutely anything,like smokers going outside the pub and the neighbours hearing them talking,they were just really trying to make his life a misery with constant complaints.
It is a quiet pub in a housing scheme,not in a busy high street full of young,drunk idiots.
The people he lets in the pub are really a direct reflection of this landlords character,and we're all trying to support him fully in anyway we can.
I think it's more silly if you want a really quiet life to stay above a pub,than have a widely respected landlord bending over backwards to be quiet and taking on a pub with a flat above.
I lived over a pub for 10 years and really enjoyed it.
I realised that the landlord has to make a living and in this case that included Karaoke on a Sunday night. The rest of the week was pretty quiet so we just tolerated the one noisy night.
However we did get the noise abatement lot from the council in about upstairs neighbours that we had for a few months and one of the things they said was 'If you can hear it at all then it's too noisy'.
defblade said:
Why take on a pub that has a flat upstairs, if you're not prepared to run a quiet pub?
He 'does' run a quiet pub,that's the whole point of me coming on here as the two people in the flat upstairs are jyst going out of their way to complain for the sake of complaining.This was starting to dawn on the council,but for whatever reason when another bar person was on for thus one night the neighboyrs had 'just' heard music, and combining this with someone else new from the council taking iver the coyncil,there was suddenly a major shift towards the neighbours side of things for whatever reason,to the extent the landlord is 'genuinely' worried about losing his license,it's utterly ridiculous and he's the last person on this planet who deserves this.
robbocop33 said:
He 'does' run a quiet pub,that's the whole point of me coming on here as the two people in the flat upstairs are jyst going out of their way to complain for the sake of complaining.
This was starting to dawn on the council,but for whatever reason when another bar person was on for thus one night the neighboyrs had 'just' heard music, and combining this with someone else new from the council taking iver the coyncil,there was suddenly a major shift towards the neighbours side of things for whatever reason,to the extent the landlord is 'genuinely' worried about losing his license,it's utterly ridiculous and he's the last person on this planet who deserves this.
It'll be fine then. The council will ask them to keep a noise diary, and eventually put in sound monitoring/recording stuff and when there's no great noise, the council will go away again.This was starting to dawn on the council,but for whatever reason when another bar person was on for thus one night the neighboyrs had 'just' heard music, and combining this with someone else new from the council taking iver the coyncil,there was suddenly a major shift towards the neighbours side of things for whatever reason,to the extent the landlord is 'genuinely' worried about losing his license,it's utterly ridiculous and he's the last person on this planet who deserves this.
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