Penalty for using phone as a sat nav while driving?
Penalty for using phone as a sat nav while driving?
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saaby93

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32,038 posts

208 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Ok so you can attach the phone to the heater vents, set it up in nav mode to get you to your destination.
As you go you can do the two finger zoom out to make sure it's going where you want then resume to get it back on track.
At your destination you two finger zoom in to check it's where you want
As youre not using it as a phone, is it ok as a satnav?
Or is there a voice operated function you can use

Its the other way shout

KaraK

13,842 posts

239 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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If you're not actually holding it then you're all good AFAIK

*Al*

3,830 posts

252 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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KaraK said:
If you're not actually holding it then you're all good AFAIK
This.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

13,240 posts

130 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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There is of course scope for the police to do you for controlling any sat-nav whilst on the move, so the same would apply I'd imagine, you're not using any of its phone functionality.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

217 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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KaraK said:
If you're not actually holding it then you're all good AFAIK
I thought so to-very unlikely law enforcement would use their powers to prosecute you. In fact you could stick your phone in an on dash holder and spend that 'wasted' driving time looking on farcebook and get away with it no problem. At least I guess you could, not that I would.

Joratk

432 posts

140 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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This is something I have considered before. Also one I think about is - say you're listening to spotify with your phone connected to the car and a song comes on you don't want to listen to, are you allowed to change it?

I'd love to ask a copper and get this cleared up.

Alex_225

7,827 posts

231 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Assuming you're not veering all over the road etc. and aren't holding it. This shouldn't be a problem.

Better than those morons who place a sat nav right in the middle of their windscreen so their satnav is blocking their view of the road.

Trax

1,601 posts

262 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Alex_225 said:
Assuming you're not veering all over the road etc. and aren't holding it. This shouldn't be a problem.

Better than those morons who place a sat nav right in the middle of their windscreen so their satnav is blocking their view of the road.
I seem to be seeing this often now. Big phone or Satnav, slightly right of centre windscreen at eye level. So pretty much blocking most of the drivers view, apart from straight ahead or to the right.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

192 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Trax said:
I seem to be seeing this often now. Big phone or Satnav, slightly right of centre windscreen at eye level. So pretty much blocking most of the drivers view, apart from straight ahead or to the right.
Still not as bad as the disgusting screen in Mercs over the last three or four years. Ugly, distracting, irrelevant.

Tomo1971

1,177 posts

187 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Is it any wonder driving standards are so bad when people dont even know the basics of the law.

The mobile phone laws relate to phones (or their use) when they are HELD not when they are HANDS FREE - for the avoidance of doubt, hands free means you can operate the phone without holding it, not touching it.

However, you can potentially get prosecuted under different laws if you are not in proper control - ie, messing with your sat nav (or phone, drink, crisps, makeup etc) and observed driving erratically etc.



SVTRick

3,633 posts

225 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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Who will be the first one of you fk wit idiots who still think it's acceptable to be holding and using your phone whilst driving to get 6 points then.

Bet you don't post that on here.





HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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If you are not holding your phone and it's in a cradle you can use the touch screen to simply skip a song etc. However, if your driving or concentration if affected by doing so, other laws come in to play such as not in proper control of vehicle.

If you are physically holding the phone even if it's to skip a song then you will fall foul of the new legislation.

Buy a £1 phone cradle from pound land, simples.

surveyor

18,699 posts

214 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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Tomo1971 said:
Is it any wonder driving standards are so bad when people dont even know the basics of the law.

The mobile phone laws relate to phones (or their use) when they are HELD not when they are HANDS FREE - for the avoidance of doubt, hands free means you can operate the phone without holding it, not touching it.

However, you can potentially get prosecuted under different laws if you are not in proper control - ie, messing with your sat nav (or phone, drink, crisps, makeup etc) and observed driving erratically etc.
To be fair there is so much disinformation out there...

OverSteery

3,794 posts

261 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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surveyor said:
Tomo1971 said:
Is it any wonder driving standards are so bad when people dont even know the basics of the law.

The mobile phone laws relate to phones (or their use) when they are HELD not when they are HANDS FREE - for the avoidance of doubt, hands free means you can operate the phone without holding it, not touching it.

However, you can potentially get prosecuted under different laws if you are not in proper control - ie, messing with your sat nav (or phone, drink, crisps, makeup etc) and observed driving erratically etc.
Too true. I just looked on the government web site on the page "Using mobile phones when driving" which include:
gov.uk said:
When you can use a phone in your vehicle
If you’re the driver, you can only use your phone in a vehicle if you:

- need to call 999 or 112 in an emergency and it’s unsafe or impractical to stop
- are safely parked
No mention of if it's in a cradle.

So you are of course, correct, but I'm not surprised people are confused.







xjay1337

15,966 posts

148 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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Joratk said:
This is something I have considered before. Also one I think about is - say you're listening to spotify with your phone connected to the car and a song comes on you don't want to listen to, are you allowed to change it?

I'd love to ask a copper and get this cleared up.
I'm not a copper but if you have to pull your phone out of your pocket to change the song then that would be a finable offense.

I believe it's a handheld mobile so use an iPod Touch and you are technically not committing an offense.

TheD

3,142 posts

229 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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I past ten people today using their phone as a phone. Eight women and two men and I had only covered 25 miles. I just don't get how they just seem so ignorant.

Mr Snrub

26,111 posts

257 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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TheD said:
I past ten people today using their phone as a phone. Eight women and two men and I had only covered 25 miles. I just don't get how they just seem so ignorant.
Less ignorance, more the fact they know the chances of getting caught are slim to none

TheD

3,142 posts

229 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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Mr Snrub said:
TheD said:
I past ten people today using their phone as a phone. Eight women and two men and I had only covered 25 miles. I just don't get how they just seem so ignorant.
Less ignorance, more the fact they know the chances of getting caught are slim to none
Well that's true as I never seen a police car all day, anywhere. Still a risky strategy though.

Fore Left

1,617 posts

212 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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HantsRat said:
Buy a £1 phone cradle from pound land, simples.
Will you get fined when you're picking it out the footwell by the cradle? smile

Order66

6,740 posts

279 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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This:
https://www.facebook.com/bbcradioscotland/videos/1...

seems to suggest you can't touch it in any way while driving, whether for a sat-nav or anything else. It's a bit unclear as to the term "hands-free", does that also mean if it is in a mount?