CCTV; where can they be pointed?
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Hi all,
Hope this is the right section - recently I have had an incident with someone dumping stuff onto my car , which is parked out onto the road. I have two cars and the other is on the drive, so I can't really put it up and often enough when I do someone parks in front of the drive. The joys of not having a dropped curb.
Although this really is a one off incident, or at least, no one has dumped a lot of flour and yoghurt on my car before! Although it sounds pretty harmless, it got all inside past my window deflectors and has pretty much made a big mess as it did on the outside, inside. Previously, I have had found dents that I know are from the new lovely family's children playing football and someone has broken my father's wiper arms pulling them up. These have been very few and far between, to be fair. However I am now starting to think it might be a good idea to get a camera of some kind to capture stuff like this happening in case something worse was to happen.
I was thinking CCTV but having a little read on here: https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv I'm not quite sure whether it is something I could do, since it wouldn't be on just my drive it will be covering the road, too. I'm very friendly with my neighbours, so I'd imagine they'd be alright if I spoke with them to get a CCTV fitted, even if it were to look over their drives. But I'm thinking will it be affected due to the road and people passing by on the pavement. Is this the case? I was thinking maybe I could only have the aforementioned CCTV turned on when my car is parked up (which is throughout the night and very rarely in the day, seeing as I use the car all day) and obviously turn it off when my car is not there.
(I might have completely skipped past some details that'd help, so pardon if I have done so).
However, if CCTV is not suitable I'm thinking of getting a dashcam, it'll help for the daily use of the car anyways - does anyone know of any decent cameras that they use I could hook up at all? Someone in work mentioned you can have ones that activate if there is activity around the car.
Much appreciated for any input guys.
Hope this is the right section - recently I have had an incident with someone dumping stuff onto my car , which is parked out onto the road. I have two cars and the other is on the drive, so I can't really put it up and often enough when I do someone parks in front of the drive. The joys of not having a dropped curb.
Although this really is a one off incident, or at least, no one has dumped a lot of flour and yoghurt on my car before! Although it sounds pretty harmless, it got all inside past my window deflectors and has pretty much made a big mess as it did on the outside, inside. Previously, I have had found dents that I know are from the new lovely family's children playing football and someone has broken my father's wiper arms pulling them up. These have been very few and far between, to be fair. However I am now starting to think it might be a good idea to get a camera of some kind to capture stuff like this happening in case something worse was to happen.
I was thinking CCTV but having a little read on here: https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv I'm not quite sure whether it is something I could do, since it wouldn't be on just my drive it will be covering the road, too. I'm very friendly with my neighbours, so I'd imagine they'd be alright if I spoke with them to get a CCTV fitted, even if it were to look over their drives. But I'm thinking will it be affected due to the road and people passing by on the pavement. Is this the case? I was thinking maybe I could only have the aforementioned CCTV turned on when my car is parked up (which is throughout the night and very rarely in the day, seeing as I use the car all day) and obviously turn it off when my car is not there.
(I might have completely skipped past some details that'd help, so pardon if I have done so).
However, if CCTV is not suitable I'm thinking of getting a dashcam, it'll help for the daily use of the car anyways - does anyone know of any decent cameras that they use I could hook up at all? Someone in work mentioned you can have ones that activate if there is activity around the car.
Much appreciated for any input guys.
Private CCTV regs are all "should" and "might", short of the Police turning up with a warrant demanding to inspect the footage (which is unlikely unless they have firm grounds to believe you are up to no good) you can get away with pointing them where you like.
However, be prepared to fall out with any neighbour who does not like being filmed, given one of them is likely to have floured your car CCTV will just escalate the situation.
However, be prepared to fall out with any neighbour who does not like being filmed, given one of them is likely to have floured your car CCTV will just escalate the situation.
I wouldn't worry about CCTV pointing out on to a road. The police use the public's CCTV that covers beyond boundries all the time. I've never know there be any DPA / ICO issues.
The only time the police are going to be interested in a private person's CCTV is if it's suspected to be used for something like voyeurism.
It would be wise to discuss it with your neighbours.
The only time the police are going to be interested in a private person's CCTV is if it's suspected to be used for something like voyeurism.
It would be wise to discuss it with your neighbours.
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/
It is OK for a private individual to cover a public space with CCTV. But if you do so, you are no longer exempt from the data protection act and must register the system with the ICO at a cost of £35 / year. You must also put up a sign stating that you have CCTV and detail who the operator is.
It is OK for a private individual to cover a public space with CCTV. But if you do so, you are no longer exempt from the data protection act and must register the system with the ICO at a cost of £35 / year. You must also put up a sign stating that you have CCTV and detail who the operator is.
Cheers for your response, guys!
Both of my neighbours are equally big petrolheads and we get along all nicely - I'll have a chat with them when I catch them about next
I might just get a dashcam anyways since that has been on the list for some time, it'll help with the idiots I deal with on my daily commute.
Both of my neighbours are equally big petrolheads and we get along all nicely - I'll have a chat with them when I catch them about next
I might just get a dashcam anyways since that has been on the list for some time, it'll help with the idiots I deal with on my daily commute.
mikeveal said:
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/
It is OK for a private individual to cover a public space with CCTV. But if you do so, you are no longer exempt from the data protection act and must register the system with the ICO at a cost of £35 / year. You must also put up a sign stating that you have CCTV and detail who the operator is.
We did this from day one, and have been able to help the police with thier enquiries twice when we caught suspects vehicles entering and leaving the village.It is OK for a private individual to cover a public space with CCTV. But if you do so, you are no longer exempt from the data protection act and must register the system with the ICO at a cost of £35 / year. You must also put up a sign stating that you have CCTV and detail who the operator is.
How is it possible that you can use a CCTV camera to film within the boundary of your property and be within the law, you can use any camera from an iphone to a professional set up to film things when out and about in public and still be within the law (there are no laws stopping people from filming in public), yet you cant use a CCTV camera to film the public from your property, suppose you stick an iphone on your windowsill lookin over the road, does this break DPA laws?
Likewise dash cams are CCTV, is it an offence to film the public with one of these, what if you are sat on your drive with the dash cam running, you are then filming the public from your own property, its yet another set of meaningless laws dreamed up by faceless bureaucrats that don't have a clue about the real word.
Likewise dash cams are CCTV, is it an offence to film the public with one of these, what if you are sat on your drive with the dash cam running, you are then filming the public from your own property, its yet another set of meaningless laws dreamed up by faceless bureaucrats that don't have a clue about the real word.
mikeveal said:
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/
It is OK for a private individual to cover a public space with CCTV. But if you do so, you are no longer exempt from the data protection act and must register the system with the ICO at a cost of £35 / year. You must also put up a sign stating that you have CCTV and detail who the operator is.
Is my front garden to be considered a public space then as it fronts onto a busy road from which it is separated only by waist high railings and has a gate which has no lock. My garden also has no barrier between it and the adjacent five houses so even if my gate was to be locked, people could still access it.It is OK for a private individual to cover a public space with CCTV. But if you do so, you are no longer exempt from the data protection act and must register the system with the ICO at a cost of £35 / year. You must also put up a sign stating that you have CCTV and detail who the operator is.
VEX said:
mikeveal said:
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/
It is OK for a private individual to cover a public space with CCTV. But if you do so, you are no longer exempt from the data protection act and must register the system with the ICO at a cost of £35 / year. You must also put up a sign stating that you have CCTV and detail who the operator is.
We did this from day one, and have been able to help the police with thier enquiries twice when we caught suspects vehicles entering and leaving the village.It is OK for a private individual to cover a public space with CCTV. But if you do so, you are no longer exempt from the data protection act and must register the system with the ICO at a cost of £35 / year. You must also put up a sign stating that you have CCTV and detail who the operator is.
VEX said:
VEX said:
mikeveal said:
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/
It is OK for a private individual to cover a public space with CCTV. But if you do so, you are no longer exempt from the data protection act and must register the system with the ICO at a cost of £35 / year. You must also put up a sign stating that you have CCTV and detail who the operator is.
We did this from day one, and have been able to help the police with thier enquiries twice when we caught suspects vehicles entering and leaving the village.It is OK for a private individual to cover a public space with CCTV. But if you do so, you are no longer exempt from the data protection act and must register the system with the ICO at a cost of £35 / year. You must also put up a sign stating that you have CCTV and detail who the operator is.
Thanks for all your replies, been very helpful
I spoke with my neighbour who has a decent CCTV camera, which he has linked to his phone. He gets alerts, can view and move his camera wherever and whenever with the app. Pretty handy if I'm in work or away from home to check.
The funny thing is, he shown me alerts from the night before and you could see people passing by with tubs of stuff in the early hours of the morning..unfortunately the screenshot was the only thing kept and the footage was deleted, so there is nothing I can really do about it. Luckily it was just flour and yoghurt, not like the incident where people put brake fluid on my dad's Transit many moons ago.
I spoke with my neighbour who has a decent CCTV camera, which he has linked to his phone. He gets alerts, can view and move his camera wherever and whenever with the app. Pretty handy if I'm in work or away from home to check.
The funny thing is, he shown me alerts from the night before and you could see people passing by with tubs of stuff in the early hours of the morning..unfortunately the screenshot was the only thing kept and the footage was deleted, so there is nothing I can really do about it. Luckily it was just flour and yoghurt, not like the incident where people put brake fluid on my dad's Transit many moons ago.
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