Stolen Recovered Issue - Help Please?
Discussion
I have my E63 stolen over the weekend with the keys, breaking into the house.
The car was stashed only about a mile away and then found using the tracker system by the Police. Undamaged.
However, according to the Insurance company, this will now be logged as a stolen recovered vehicle with the DVLA and HPI.
Now, will I have to declare this when I sell the car in a few years time and get a lower resale for the car?
Will this appear on a HPI?
Privilege Insurance say that the insurance does not cover that type of loss?
It was stolen and the value has been depreciated if this is the case?
Should the insurance consider this as part of a claim?
Help!
The car was stashed only about a mile away and then found using the tracker system by the Police. Undamaged.
However, according to the Insurance company, this will now be logged as a stolen recovered vehicle with the DVLA and HPI.
Now, will I have to declare this when I sell the car in a few years time and get a lower resale for the car?
Will this appear on a HPI?
Privilege Insurance say that the insurance does not cover that type of loss?
It was stolen and the value has been depreciated if this is the case?
Should the insurance consider this as part of a claim?
Help!
MitchT said:
If the vehicle is undamaged then what are you claiming for? If you have costs but they're insignificant you might be as well to withdraw your claim.
Definitely. If it was a high value vehicle and was stashed nearby then it was stolen to order, not the kind of joyriding knobs who automatically trash it. How was it stolen? May be costs in re-keying etc which could be significant but other than that I'd cancel the claim. Will still be declarable as an 'incident' though.
It was a steal with keys and park locally deal to see of there is Tracker on it. Very common apparently. Driven about a mile. Undamaged. I have key insurance from Mercedes.
I don't want to discover it's now a stolen recovered CAT D, there is a stigma and it does effect values if this is now on the HPI.
I am glad to have the car back, but . . . and big thanks to West Midlands Police who were superb.
Apparently you can claim for 'Diminution in Value' of the car as it will hold a stolen/recovered tag against it.
I hope not
I don't want to discover it's now a stolen recovered CAT D, there is a stigma and it does effect values if this is now on the HPI.
I am glad to have the car back, but . . . and big thanks to West Midlands Police who were superb.
Apparently you can claim for 'Diminution in Value' of the car as it will hold a stolen/recovered tag against it.
I hope not

Bogracer said:
It was a steal with keys and park locally deal to see of there is Tracker on it. Very common apparently. Driven about a mile. Undamaged. I have key insurance from Mercedes.
I don't want to discover it's now a stolen recovered CAT D, there is a stigma and it does effect values if this is now on the HPI.
I am glad to have the car back, but . . . and big thanks to West Midlands Police who were superb.
Apparently you can claim for 'Diminution in Value' of the car as it will hold a stolen/recovered tag against it.
I hope not
I fail to see how it could become a cat D (write-off) if you have the car back un-damaged.I don't want to discover it's now a stolen recovered CAT D, there is a stigma and it does effect values if this is now on the HPI.
I am glad to have the car back, but . . . and big thanks to West Midlands Police who were superb.
Apparently you can claim for 'Diminution in Value' of the car as it will hold a stolen/recovered tag against it.
I hope not

Tim
catman said:
I fail to see how it could become a cat D (write-off) if you have the car back un-damaged.
Tim
Cat D is not a write-off:Tim
Category D is for the most lightly damaged cars, or those which were stolen and recovered after the owner had been paid by the insurance company. The official description of a Category D car is one that has suffered accident damage that would cost less to repair than its value.
So, if the owner has not claimed for the complete loss from the insurance company it cannot be a Cat D. He could still claim for new locks etc without it being a Cat D.
KevinCamaroSS said:
Cat D is not a write-off:
Category D is for the most lightly damaged cars, or those which were stolen and recovered after the owner had been paid by the insurance company. The official description of a Category D car is one that has suffered accident damage that would cost less to repair than its value.
So, if the owner has not claimed for the complete loss from the insurance company it cannot be a Cat D. He could still claim for new locks etc without it being a Cat D.
Cat D is a write-off. It's a vehicle that the insurer has chosen to write off, instead of repairing, even though the damage is nominally lower than the pre-incident value.Category D is for the most lightly damaged cars, or those which were stolen and recovered after the owner had been paid by the insurance company. The official description of a Category D car is one that has suffered accident damage that would cost less to repair than its value.
So, if the owner has not claimed for the complete loss from the insurance company it cannot be a Cat D. He could still claim for new locks etc without it being a Cat D.
A write-off is when the insurer doesn't repair it, but pays the full value instead.
If they repair it and return it, it's not written off.
Don't know if it's an official thing, or if it was local procedure, but back when I worked for an insurance company they never used to classify a car as a write off if it was recovered within 21 days. if 21 days elapsed then it was classified and the customer was paid out. If it was recovered within this time frame then it was categorised, unless any damage caused exceeded the threshold for a write off.
Clear as mud? Hope that helps.
Things may have changed since I stopped working for them 12 years ago though.
Clear as mud? Hope that helps.
Things may have changed since I stopped working for them 12 years ago though.
Blue Oval84 said:
Unless they've paid out on it as a total loss then my understanding is that it won't be logged? Why did they say it would be?
Cars can be logged as "stolen and recovered" even if you make no claim (other than getting new keys made up etc) so there will always be a record somewhere.For example, on this thread from 2010 someone said:
"I did this check on a car once, and when I did the HPI check it said there was a number I could ring for more info - so I rang it and HPI said that it was "stolen and recovered undamaged" (i.e. it was nicked with the keys) - which goes some way to helping you to know whether it was damaged or not."
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=813...
Bogracer said:
I have my E63 stolen over the weekend with the keys, breaking into the house.
The car was stashed only about a mile away and then found using the tracker system by the Police. Undamaged.
However, according to the Insurance company, this will now be logged as a stolen recovered vehicle with the DVLA and HPI.
Now, will I have to declare this when I sell the car in a few years time and get a lower resale for the car?
Will this appear on a HPI?
Privilege Insurance say that the insurance does not cover that type of loss?
It was stolen and the value has been depreciated if this is the case?
Should the insurance consider this as part of a claim?
Help!
It can get logged, but can be removed.The car was stashed only about a mile away and then found using the tracker system by the Police. Undamaged.
However, according to the Insurance company, this will now be logged as a stolen recovered vehicle with the DVLA and HPI.
Now, will I have to declare this when I sell the car in a few years time and get a lower resale for the car?
Will this appear on a HPI?
Privilege Insurance say that the insurance does not cover that type of loss?
It was stolen and the value has been depreciated if this is the case?
Should the insurance consider this as part of a claim?
Help!
A similar thing happen to our Range Rover. My presumption was that because we got it back quickly without making a claim it would not get recorded. I was wrong. It seems that just letting the insurers know was enough to get it recorded as stolen / recovered.
When I found out what had happened a brief call to the insurer had the marker removed.
TooMany2cvs said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
Cat D is not a write-off:
Category D is for the most lightly damaged cars, or those which were stolen and recovered after the owner had been paid by the insurance company. The official description of a Category D car is one that has suffered accident damage that would cost less to repair than its value.
So, if the owner has not claimed for the complete loss from the insurance company it cannot be a Cat D. He could still claim for new locks etc without it being a Cat D.
Cat D is a write-off. It's a vehicle that the insurer has chosen to write off, instead of repairing, even though the damage is nominally lower than the pre-incident value.Category D is for the most lightly damaged cars, or those which were stolen and recovered after the owner had been paid by the insurance company. The official description of a Category D car is one that has suffered accident damage that would cost less to repair than its value.
So, if the owner has not claimed for the complete loss from the insurance company it cannot be a Cat D. He could still claim for new locks etc without it being a Cat D.
A write-off is when the insurer doesn't repair it, but pays the full value instead.
If they repair it and return it, it's not written off.
In essence a write-off is where the cost to repair/fulfill the claim after an accident is more than the economic value of the car.
KevinCamaroSS said:
TooMany2cvs said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
Cat D is not a write-off:
Category D is for the most lightly damaged cars, or those which were stolen and recovered after the owner had been paid by the insurance company. The official description of a Category D car is one that has suffered accident damage that would cost less to repair than its value.
So, if the owner has not claimed for the complete loss from the insurance company it cannot be a Cat D. He could still claim for new locks etc without it being a Cat D.
Cat D is a write-off. It's a vehicle that the insurer has chosen to write off, instead of repairing, even though the damage is nominally lower than the pre-incident value.Category D is for the most lightly damaged cars, or those which were stolen and recovered after the owner had been paid by the insurance company. The official description of a Category D car is one that has suffered accident damage that would cost less to repair than its value.
So, if the owner has not claimed for the complete loss from the insurance company it cannot be a Cat D. He could still claim for new locks etc without it being a Cat D.
A write-off is when the insurer doesn't repair it, but pays the full value instead.
If they repair it and return it, it's not written off.
In essence a write-off is where the cost to repair/fulfill the claim after an accident is more than the economic value of the car.
And if that happens, it's not going to be a Cat D. Because Cat D is a category of write-off... A write-off is often more than the claim, yes, but it may be below if they decide to write the car off instead. Perhaps the hire car bill is too high. Perhaps parts availability means it's easier to just close it now. Perhaps the policy says that anything over x% will be written off. Perhaps there's a risk of unknown damage that might appear later. That's what Cat D write-offs are.
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