I need a accident lawyer.
I need a accident lawyer.
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fredt

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847 posts

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Thursday 9th March 2017
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My wife had a minor accident recently where the other car cut through lanes and drove in to my wife's car. The other driver claims something completely different and have also provided a false witness. Anyway our insurance company isn't interested in finding the truth but I'm not willing to let it go. Can someone recommend a good lawyer for this sort of thing?

Thanks,
Fred

PH XKR

1,761 posts

132 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Atglaw posts on here or nick freeman

fredt

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Thursday 9th March 2017
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PH XKR said:
Atglaw posts on here or nick freeman
Thanks, I'll start there. smile

HantsRat

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138 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Do you have an independent witness? Otherwise it'll be your word against his.

spikyone

1,915 posts

130 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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fredt said:
My wife had a minor accident recently where the other car cut through lanes and drove in to my wife's car. The other driver claims something completely different and have also provided a false witness. Anyway our insurance company isn't interested in finding the truth but I'm not willing to let it go. Can someone recommend a good lawyer for this sort of thing?

Thanks,
Fred
I sympathise entirely - I once had an "accident" where the other driver tailgated me for several miles, overtook where it really wasn't sensible to do so, then cut back in front of me and jammed on his brakes. Despite providing evidence that showed there was no way the other driver's fake witness could have seen what she claimed and the fact that her statement looked like it had been written by a 5-year old (it also looked suspiciously like he'd tried to commit insurance fraud previously), I was held to be at fault.

Unless you have some pretty compelling evidence that the witness is false and that the other party is lying, my advice would be to put it down to "one of those things" and move on, whilst hoping karma deals with the idiot who was truly at fault. In my case, the other guy was later banged up after violently assaulting his wife - he got a ridiculously short suspended sentence, which was activated when he subsequently breached a restraining order. Felt incredibly sorry for his wife, but crossed my fingers that his prison-issue soap was slippery...

(edited to remove specifics)

Edited by spikyone on Thursday 9th March 15:50

Durzel

12,999 posts

198 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Dashcams (or at least the wiring in situ) needs to start being introduced on all new cars to be honest.

mel

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305 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Shnozz

It's his area of law.

spikyone

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130 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Durzel said:
Dashcams (or at least the wiring in situ) needs to start being introduced on all new cars to be honest.
+1. As long as they can't be used as some kind of social media device, which is what that new Citroen C3 seems to be encouraging.

fredt

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847 posts

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Thursday 9th March 2017
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I have a real witness and pictures of the 'crime scene'.

Funnily enough since I wrote the opening post we challenged her account of how it happened (to our insurance company who then spoke to her insurance) she has now come back to change her account of what happened and dropped her claim!

I'm still pursuing this in any way I can, she not going to get away with trying to bully me (defraud me) and drop her claim when she realizes it's not going to work.



Edited by fredt on Thursday 9th March 13:11


Edited by fredt on Thursday 9th March 13:16

Johnniem

2,757 posts

253 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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fredt said:
I have a real witness and pictures of the 'crime scene'.

Funnily enough since I wrote the opening post we challenged her account of how it happened (to our insurance company who then spoke to her insurance) she has now come back to change her account of what happened and dropped her claim!

I'm still pursuing this in any way I can, she not going to get away with trying to bully me (defraud me) and drop her claim when she realizes it's not going to work.



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Edited by fredt on Thursday 9th March 13:16
Therein lies lawyer's fees. Lots of them. Let your insurance company deal with it.

fredt

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847 posts

177 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Johnniem said:
Therein lies lawyer's fees. Lots of them. Let your insurance company deal with it.
Insurance company don't care though. She has basically tried to do us over in way that if she was successful would have cost us thousands in insurance premium in the coming years. I'm not going to let her just drop it because she decided it might not work.

I realize it's going to cost me money. It's a matter of principle.

wack

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236 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Are you bringing a private fraud case against her , what do you hope to gain if you win , money, prison sentence , I'd think either would be unlikely.

It might be a matter of principal but if she sees you spend thousands and she's still walking about at the end of it she'll have made a mug of you twice.

You're not out of pocket , let it go

Sheepshanks

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149 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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spikyone said:
Durzel said:
Dashcams (or at least the wiring in situ) needs to start being introduced on all new cars to be honest.
+1.
Hard to tell for sure from the OP's description, but doesn't sound like it would have been useful in this case.

Trabi601

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125 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Durzel said:
Dashcams (or at least the wiring in situ) needs to start being introduced on all new cars to be honest.
We live in the most surveillanced society in the developed world. Why are so many people desperate to sign up (voluntarily) to ever more surveillance?

KungFuPanda

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200 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Trabi601 said:
We live in the most surveillanced society in the developed world. Why are so many people desperate to sign up (voluntarily) to ever more surveillance?
When it comes to accidents or damage to our cars, the authorities, supermarkets, car park companies never seem to be willing to help. Furthermore, with dash cams, we are in control of the footage and what happens to it. If you're not happy with what it records, you could just eat the micro sd card.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

125 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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KungFuPanda said:
When it comes to accidents or damage to our cars, the authorities, supermarkets, car park companies never seem to be willing to help. Furthermore, with dash cams, we are in control of the footage and what happens to it. If you're not happy with what it records, you could just eat the micro sd card.
Only cars will soon come with a compulsory active data connection. And Citroen have already hooked up their camera to the internet.

We're wandering blindly into something that isn't what people thought they'd get when they started buying into the dash cam thing.

PH XKR

1,761 posts

132 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Fredt, whilst I understand your aim, just be grateful she has retracted her claim. Get a dash cam and now move on smile

fredt

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847 posts

177 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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I will be buying a dashcam, and yes it would've helped for sure in this case. There is absolutely no question who was wrong. Buyt even then I would've happily taken care of my own damage as it was only paintwork on both cars. This woman has gone out of her way and lied to get out of something that would've cost her a maximum of a few hundred to sort out, probably less. And it was totally her fault. She didn't even need to bother about my car (which is way more expensive).

I am not looking to gain anything from this, I just don't want this mug thinking she can do whatever she wants and get away with it.

Ultimately I would love for her and her witness to stand up in court and repeat their lies. I'd actually prefer if she hadn't retracted her claim.

Edited by fredt on Friday 10th March 08:37

fredt

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Friday 10th March 2017
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wack said:
Are you bringing a private fraud case against her , what do you hope to gain if you win , money, prison sentence , I'd think either would be unlikely.

It might be a matter of principal but if she sees you spend thousands and she's still walking about at the end of it she'll have made a mug of you twice.

You're not out of pocket , let it go
PH XKR said:
Fredt, whilst I understand your aim, just be grateful she has retracted her claim. Get a dash cam and now move on smile
Completely understand these point, and in a different scenario I would have more then happily done this.

We had already offered this woman a solution that was beneficial for her, even messaged her to check if she got home safely and so on. And she goes and does this.

Edited by fredt on Friday 10th March 08:56

herewego

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243 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Trabi601 said:
KungFuPanda said:
When it comes to accidents or damage to our cars, the authorities, supermarkets, car park companies never seem to be willing to help. Furthermore, with dash cams, we are in control of the footage and what happens to it. If you're not happy with what it records, you could just eat the micro sd card.
Only cars will soon come with a compulsory active data connection. And Citroen have already hooked up their camera to the internet.

We're wandering blindly into something that isn't what people thought they'd get when they started buying into the dash cam thing.
So you guys want to have dash-cams so you can stop other people from avoiding their responsibilities, but you want to retain the right to delete footage so that you can avoid your own?