ANPR Question
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AndrewO

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689 posts

213 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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I got my trackcar MOT'd on Saturday...driving to the MOT center and back again passing an ANPR camera on the way.

The Car is SORN'd at the moment, valid insurance and now an MOT...plan was to tax it the start of April. Am I likely to get a fine for driving on the road without tax ?

Thanks

amancalledrob

1,248 posts

164 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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As I understand it you need an MOT in order to tax the car. Therefore as long as it was a pre-booked MOT appointment and you didn't go anywhere else, you're fine

PH5121

2,007 posts

243 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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On a similar note, my car was taken off a SORN and was taxed on Saturday. On the DVLA site it is still showing as being SORNed with a note that the system can take 5 days to update any change in status.

If that is the case is it likely that ANPR would 'ping' me as an untaxed car and attract the attention of a passing Police patrol? I will carry the receipt of payment e-mail that the DVLA sent just in case, but the issue had never occurred to me until I checked the MOT date on line this morning that there would be such a time lag.

AndrewO

Original Poster:

689 posts

213 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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I guess it was more a question of when ANPR issues a fine for no tax ? On a second trigger/2nd day ?

There will be lots of cars going past to get MOTs without tax

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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There are exemptions from having both tax and MOT if you are driving to or from a pre-arranged test (or to / from a place of repair after a failed test).

As long as the vehicle has been kept off the road since returning from the test, you'll be fine.

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Was it a DVLA camera car? If a normal ANPR camera the DVLA don't monitor these.

Terminator X

20,779 posts

234 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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I had my licence revoked (in error) for about 5 years and was unaware. Passed many ANPR camera's in that time and heard nothing.

TX.

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Terminator X said:
I had my licence revoked (in error) for about 5 years and was unaware. Passed many ANPR camera's in that time and heard nothing.

TX.
How would an ANPR camera pick up on who was driving thus display their licence situation? Unless intel was submitted it would not flag up.

Cliftonite

8,748 posts

168 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Terminator X said:
I had my licence revoked (in error) for about 5 years and was unaware. Passed many ANPR camera's in that time and heard nothing.

TX.
ANPR cameras see cars, not drivers.


AndrewO

Original Poster:

689 posts

213 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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HantsRat said:
Was it a DVLA camera car? If a normal ANPR camera the DVLA don't monitor these.
Wasn't aware the DVLA had cars/vans out and about..just concerned with the static cameras...they are all over the place.



Red Devil

13,523 posts

238 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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SS2. said:
There are exemptions from having both tax and MOT if you are driving to or from a pre-arranged test (or to / from a place of repair after a failed test).

As long as the vehicle has been kept off the road since returning from the test, you'll be fine.
^^This^^

For those who may be interested the exemption is contained in the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 Schedule 2 Section 22.
If it passes, the vehicle should be taxed before it leaves the testing station. It would be down to sheer bad luck though if you got nabbed before reaching the Post Office! smile

Terminator X

20,779 posts

234 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Cliftonite said:
Terminator X said:
I had my licence revoked (in error) for about 5 years and was unaware. Passed many ANPR camera's in that time and heard nothing.

TX.
ANPR cameras see cars, not drivers.
Just making the point that they are not all seeing.

TX.

AndrewO

Original Poster:

689 posts

213 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Red Devil said:
^^This^^

For those who may be interested the exemption is contained in the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 Schedule 2 Section 22.
If it passes, the vehicle should be taxed before it leaves the testing station. It would be down to sheer bad luck though if you got nabbed before reaching the Post Office! smile
..should be taxed before leaving the test station had me worried when the fine is 5 x annual...£2500. Reading the section I think I'll be fine...specifically states it can be returned.

22(1)A vehicle is an exempt vehicle when it is being used solely for the purpose of—
(a)submitting it (by previous arrangement for a specified time on a specified date) for a compulsory test [F45, a vehicle identity check][F46, a vehicle weight test or a reduced pollution test], or

(b)bringing it away from [F47any such test][F48or check].

[F49(1A)A vehicle is an exempt vehicle when it is being used solely for the purpose of—

(a)taking it (by previous arrangement for a specified time on a specified date) for a relevant re-examination, or

(b)bringing it away from such a re-examination.]

Red Devil

13,523 posts

238 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Fair point. Might depend on where the nearest Post office is in relation to the test station. smile
The lack of VED is of far more interest to the DVLA than the police.

Utterpiffle

831 posts

210 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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Ah, you'll be fine.

I bought a British car in the Netherlands in January. It had been parked up there for 6 years. Booked an MOT in north Suffolk, then drove it back directly to the MOT station. M20, through the M25 tunnel, up the A12. How many ANPR cameras did I pass on that journey?

wack

2,103 posts

236 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Red Devil said:
^^This^^

For those who may be interested the exemption is contained in the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 Schedule 2 Section 22.
If it passes, the vehicle should be taxed before it leaves the testing station. It would be down to sheer bad luck though if you got nabbed before reaching the Post Office! smile
I took a land rover 35 miles to Blackburn and back with no mot one way and no tax both ways and heard nothing