Driving with no licence
Driving with no licence
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Mikehartle

Original Poster:

20 posts

124 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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The initial message was deleted from this topic on 16 June 2017 at 21:18

covboy

2,593 posts

204 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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As said in another thread. ANPR looks at the Car/Bike/Vehicle not the driver.

E36GUY

5,907 posts

248 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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It may be insured as far as ANPR is concerned but he won't be if he crashes it as he will have had to make a statement as to how long he's held a licence for as we all do when taking out a policy.

The tt.

Mikehartle

Original Poster:

20 posts

124 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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in that case it should be compulsory to provide license details to insurers to prevent this

Mikehartle

Original Poster:

20 posts

124 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Also I fully agree thay driving or riding anything without the licence puts risk on the driver and also everyone else. As the tests to get a licence will go over safety precauations

Dave Hedgehog

16,353 posts

234 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Mikehartle said:
in that case it should be compulsory to provide license details to insurers to prevent this
they can easily look it up online now

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Submit intel via crimestoppers then an ANPR marked will be placed on his reg plate thus alerting any ANPR police car he drives past.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,153 posts

180 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Dave Hedgehog said:
Mikehartle said:
in that case it should be compulsory to provide license details to insurers to prevent this
they can easily look it up online now
It's not easy. Policyholder will have to log in, input licence number national insurance number and postcode, and then generate a share code. Then email this to insurers with your licence number. Then they've got 3 days window to input the share code and last 8 characters of your licence number to check the details.

A load of extra faff, staffing costs and hassle and for what, to check a handful of idiots. And the cost will be past on to us. Far better off doing this for the far smaller number of people who actually claim.

gshughes

1,349 posts

285 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
It's not easy. Policyholder will have to log in, input licence number national insurance number and postcode, and then generate a share code. Then email this to insurers with your licence number. Then they've got 3 days window to input the share code and last 8 characters of your licence number to check the details.

A load of extra faff, staffing costs and hassle and for what, to check a handful of idiots. And the cost will be past on to us. Far better off doing this for the far smaller number of people who actually claim.
One of my insurers asks me to do exactly this for all named drivers (its is a bit of a faff), but the other one doesn't.

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

218 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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I thought (but am open to be very wrong), that ANPR linked to the licence details of the redg keeper ?

It used to be that if the bike had a sidecar attached then as long as he displayed L plates he could ride it, but that may all of changed these days, I remember when you could ride pillion on a bike ridden by a provisional licence holder if you had a full ticket, but I know that changed as I and a mate were bked once the constable had checked that I wasn't telling porkies. (this was back in the 90s, pre forum days, and for me pre photocard licence, so my licence still actually said you could).

Dromedary66

1,924 posts

168 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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If he ends up a quadriplegic after an accident on the bike then he can look forward to a lifetime on the bare minimum NHS provided support as his insurance won't be paying out anything.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,153 posts

180 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Dromedary66 said:
If he ends up a quadriplegic after an accident on the bike then he can look forward to a lifetime on the bare minimum NHS provided support as his insurance won't be paying out anything.
His insurers wouldn't be paying out for his own injuries even if he had a full licence.

KungFuPanda

4,642 posts

200 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Dromedary66 said:
If he ends up a quadriplegic after an accident on the bike then he can look forward to a lifetime on the bare minimum NHS provided support as his insurance won't be paying out anything.
His insurers wouldn't be paying out for his own injuries even if he had a full licence.
If the accident wasn't his fault, the third party insurer would be picking up the tab regardless as to whether he was legal or not.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

197 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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HantsRat said:
Submit intel via crimestoppers then an ANPR marked will be placed on his reg plate thus alerting any ANPR police car he drives past.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This

Old Tyke

288 posts

116 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Nigel Worc's said:
I thought (but am open to be very wrong), that ANPR linked to the licence details of the redg keeper ?
Nope. Never.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
Mikehartle said:
in that case it should be compulsory to provide license details to insurers to prevent this
they can easily look it up online now
It's not easy. Policyholder will have to log in, input licence number national insurance number and postcode, and then generate a share code. Then email this to insurers with your licence number. Then they've got 3 days window to input the share code and last 8 characters of your licence number to check the details.

A load of extra faff, staffing costs and hassle and for what, to check a handful of idiots. And the cost will be past on to us. Far better off doing this for the far smaller number of people who actually claim.
Insurers have access - they only need the licence number, which they increasingly ask for at proposal time.

sospan

2,755 posts

252 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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what info did your mate put on his insurance application?
If inaccurate then insurance is invalidated.
Did he lie about his not having a bike license?

TwigtheWonderkid

49,153 posts

180 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
Mikehartle said:
in that case it should be compulsory to provide license details to insurers to prevent this
they can easily look it up online now
It's not easy. Policyholder will have to log in, input licence number national insurance number and postcode, and then generate a share code. Then email this to insurers with your licence number. Then they've got 3 days window to input the share code and last 8 characters of your licence number to check the details.

A load of extra faff, staffing costs and hassle and for what, to check a handful of idiots. And the cost will be past on to us. Far better off doing this for the far smaller number of people who actually claim.
Insurers have access - they only need the licence number, which they increasingly ask for at proposal time.
Tell me more. Every insurer I know that has needed to check a licence has required the licence number plus the share code. As per the post above from gshughes.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,153 posts

180 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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KungFuPanda said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Dromedary66 said:
If he ends up a quadriplegic after an accident on the bike then he can look forward to a lifetime on the bare minimum NHS provided support as his insurance won't be paying out anything.
His insurers wouldn't be paying out for his own injuries even if he had a full licence.
If the accident wasn't his fault, the third party insurer would be picking up the tab regardless as to whether he was legal or not.
Quite so.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
TooMany2cvs said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
Mikehartle said:
in that case it should be compulsory to provide license details to insurers to prevent this
they can easily look it up online now
It's not easy. Policyholder will have to log in, input licence number national insurance number and postcode, and then generate a share code. Then email this to insurers with your licence number. Then they've got 3 days window to input the share code and last 8 characters of your licence number to check the details.

A load of extra faff, staffing costs and hassle and for what, to check a handful of idiots. And the cost will be past on to us. Far better off doing this for the far smaller number of people who actually claim.
Insurers have access - they only need the licence number, which they increasingly ask for at proposal time.
Tell me more. Every insurer I know that has needed to check a licence has required the licence number plus the share code. As per the post above from gshughes.
http://www.mylicence.org.uk/mylicence-number/
http://www.mylicence.org.uk/mydata/

This is separate from the Joe Public share code, which only applies to those without MyLicence access.