Phone payment at toll or drive through
Discussion
I've started to use my phone instead of my card for most small payments, yesterday i was buying food at a drive through and the thought occurred to me that using my phone to pay could be illegal, and it could be at a toll booth too.
Am i criminal ? should i be ashamed of myself for using a hand held mobile phone while driving ?
It was actually much easier to use my phone than get my wallet out my back pocket.
Am i criminal ? should i be ashamed of myself for using a hand held mobile phone while driving ?
It was actually much easier to use my phone than get my wallet out my back pocket.
spookly said:
There's probably loads of grey areas of the law on mobile phone use.
What about a wrist watch phone? Is that hand held if you are holding it up to your face or tapping buttons on it? It isn't really in your hand, but nearly is, and isn't attached to the car.
Your not 'holding' the phone, it is attached to your wrist. Same way a phone is held in a cradle 'near you'.What about a wrist watch phone? Is that hand held if you are holding it up to your face or tapping buttons on it? It isn't really in your hand, but nearly is, and isn't attached to the car.
Using a phone to pay at a Toll I imagine would fall on the wrong side of that grey area. You are using a phone whilst in charge of a vehicle. If the police wanted to be truly pedantic, I think they could...
herewego said:
Take-away not a problem as not a public road. Road tolls could be different. Are there any road tolls payable by mobile?
are not all roads open to the public counted as public roads - hence ability to be prosecuted in supermarket car parks etc. pretty sure the RTA applies...and you can be done for mobile phone use while in control of a car - that can include sitting in it with the keys in the ignition and the engine turned off - silly, but doable...
akirk said:
herewego said:
Take-away not a problem as not a public road. Road tolls could be different. Are there any road tolls payable by mobile?
are not all roads open to the public counted as public roads - hence ability to be prosecuted in supermarket car parks etc. pretty sure the RTA applies...and you can be done for mobile phone use while in control of a car - that can include sitting in it with the keys in the ignition and the engine turned off - silly, but doable...
A drive through exists purely to allow vehicles to travel along it to certain destinations. Those destinations may be very close, and the speeds very low but in principle there is a fairly strong argument that it is a road.
If you don't believe the authorities would be happy to waste thousands perusing a pointless legal technicality just look at this thread.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
If you don't believe the authorities would be happy to waste thousands perusing a pointless legal technicality just look at this thread.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I saw this a couple of weeks ago: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/l...
JimbobVFR said:
Is that a consequence of them supporting contactless payments or do companies specifically opt in to mobile payments?
You need your contactless system to work "online" I believe, instead of storing the details as pre-authorised and putting them in as a chunk at the end of the day. To be safe of not getting prosecuted.
Pull up to payment toll (has to be manned)
Stop, apply handbrake.
Remove ignition keys
hand keys to attendant
Get phone from dash / pocket / briefcase (delete as applicable)
Use contactless payments
Put phone back
get keys from attendant
start car - >>>> Go.
Just in case you get a 17 yr old cop watching who thinks that its actually what the law was written for and tickets you.
Pull up to payment toll (has to be manned)
Stop, apply handbrake.
Remove ignition keys
hand keys to attendant
Get phone from dash / pocket / briefcase (delete as applicable)
Use contactless payments
Put phone back
get keys from attendant
start car - >>>> Go.
Just in case you get a 17 yr old cop watching who thinks that its actually what the law was written for and tickets you.
You should be okay OP.
If I'm on the phone when I pull up to the booth, it's much easier just to ask the person on the phone to hold for a few seconds whilst I pay for my Big Mac and large fries before continuing my conversation with my phone pressed to my ear. And I've never been tugged by the po-po.
If I'm on the phone when I pull up to the booth, it's much easier just to ask the person on the phone to hold for a few seconds whilst I pay for my Big Mac and large fries before continuing my conversation with my phone pressed to my ear. And I've never been tugged by the po-po.
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