Number written in legalese. Can someone translate?
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Good afternoon all,
I wonder if someone can help. I am reviewing the deeds for a potential house purchase that the seller has provided me as evidence of the quantity of land that comes with the house.
Obviously I was hoping for a nice simple decimal number preferably accompanied by a wee drawing. Sadly what I was given is an extract from the deeds that I cannot quite get my head around. Would someone far more intelligent that I be able to help translate what area the words refer to?
"One Acre Nine Hundred and Seventy-five Decimal or One Thousandth parts of an acre or thereby"
Many thanks in advance.
James
I wonder if someone can help. I am reviewing the deeds for a potential house purchase that the seller has provided me as evidence of the quantity of land that comes with the house.
Obviously I was hoping for a nice simple decimal number preferably accompanied by a wee drawing. Sadly what I was given is an extract from the deeds that I cannot quite get my head around. Would someone far more intelligent that I be able to help translate what area the words refer to?
"One Acre Nine Hundred and Seventy-five Decimal or One Thousandth parts of an acre or thereby"
Many thanks in advance.
James
James B said:
Obviously I was hoping for a nice simple decimal number preferably accompanied by a wee drawing. Sadly what I was given is an extract from the deeds that I cannot quite get my head around. Would someone far more intelligent that I be able to help translate what area the words refer to?
"One Acre Nine Hundred and Seventy-five Decimal or One Thousandth parts of an acre or thereby"
1.975 acres."One Acre Nine Hundred and Seventy-five Decimal or One Thousandth parts of an acre or thereby"
It seems very precise, given that .001 acres is a snidge over 4m2...
Seller has conceded this morning that the land appears to have made up some of his sisters property and must not have been 'split' when details written in his deeds were produced. He's of the opinion that his sister won't be delighted with him taking back half of her land so he's getting a revaluation done based on the reduced area belonging to him. He signed off his email "happy families eh?!"
I am left wondering if he actually knew already. Surely he would realise that anyone doing even the lightest of diligence would spot this 'error'.
I am left wondering if he actually knew already. Surely he would realise that anyone doing even the lightest of diligence would spot this 'error'.
James B said:
Seller has conceded this morning that the land appears to have made up some of his sisters property and must not have been 'split' when details written in his deeds were produced. He's of the opinion that his sister won't be delighted with him taking back half of her land so he's getting a revaluation done based on the reduced area belonging to him. He signed off his email "happy families eh?!"
I am left wondering if he actually knew already. Surely he would realise that anyone doing even the lightest of diligence would spot this 'error'.
Is the place already registered with LR?I am left wondering if he actually knew already. Surely he would realise that anyone doing even the lightest of diligence would spot this 'error'.
If not, I think I'd be getting his solicitor to do that first registration...
Yes the land is already registered but there appear to be some blurry lines as to where boundaries exist.
Essentially the brother and sister have neighbouring properties that form the grounds of a very stately home. Their father bought the grounds of the stately home but not the home itself. The grounds included a coach house and a cottage. The brother got the coach house and the sister the cottage on the passing of the father. The land was supposedly appropriately apportioned and that was that....in 1977. Yesterday i rocked up with my fancy google maps and shattered the illusion that the seller had his 2acre site for sale, c/w now rather extended but very very tired coach house, and brought home the reality that he's got a 1.33 acre plot and a building that needs levelling.
I await his next move.
Essentially the brother and sister have neighbouring properties that form the grounds of a very stately home. Their father bought the grounds of the stately home but not the home itself. The grounds included a coach house and a cottage. The brother got the coach house and the sister the cottage on the passing of the father. The land was supposedly appropriately apportioned and that was that....in 1977. Yesterday i rocked up with my fancy google maps and shattered the illusion that the seller had his 2acre site for sale, c/w now rather extended but very very tired coach house, and brought home the reality that he's got a 1.33 acre plot and a building that needs levelling.
I await his next move.
James B said:
Seller has conceded this morning that the land appears to have made up some of his sisters property and must not have been 'split' when details written in his deeds were produced. He's of the opinion that his sister won't be delighted with him taking back half of her land so he's getting a revaluation done based on the reduced area belonging to him. He signed off his email "happy families eh?!"
I am left wondering if he actually knew already. Surely he would realise that anyone doing even the lightest of diligence would spot this 'error'.
Revaluation!I am left wondering if he actually knew already. Surely he would realise that anyone doing even the lightest of diligence would spot this 'error'.
"Less is more" although it shouldn't be in this case...
He's revaluing today. I hope the surveyor has a proper look at the property this time though... I suspect a friend reviewed last time albeit some time ago. I would have my own carried out anyway.
Yes, being sold on market via a solicitor. I would obviously be helping relieve him of a significant burden and should be rewarded handsomely.
Yes, being sold on market via a solicitor. I would obviously be helping relieve him of a significant burden and should be rewarded handsomely.
Oh and if it was to go to plan then we have two ideas;
1) strip the house back to original walls and rebuild nicely with a 10 x 10m garage to the side and accom above it that attaches to the house; possibly for our master suite. Extension to the rear for open plan living and make better use of garden. Current sqm is 250 so this plan would up that to 425 or so.
2) level it all and start again and build a much greener home to enable me to seek comfort in the fact that the 27ltrs of engines residing in the garage would be adequately offset by the lack of heating we're paying for and the captured rays of sunlight are being put to good use in powering the garage dehumidifiers...
1) strip the house back to original walls and rebuild nicely with a 10 x 10m garage to the side and accom above it that attaches to the house; possibly for our master suite. Extension to the rear for open plan living and make better use of garden. Current sqm is 250 so this plan would up that to 425 or so.
2) level it all and start again and build a much greener home to enable me to seek comfort in the fact that the 27ltrs of engines residing in the garage would be adequately offset by the lack of heating we're paying for and the captured rays of sunlight are being put to good use in powering the garage dehumidifiers...
James B said:
Yes the land is already registered but there appear to be some blurry lines as to where boundaries exist.
Essentially the brother and sister have neighbouring properties that form the grounds of a very stately home. Their father bought the grounds of the stately home but not the home itself. The grounds included a coach house and a cottage. The brother got the coach house and the sister the cottage on the passing of the father. The land was supposedly appropriately apportioned and that was that....in 1977.
So it's registered as a whole, and what's on offer is only a part of the registration - which means a new registration would need splitting off?Essentially the brother and sister have neighbouring properties that form the grounds of a very stately home. Their father bought the grounds of the stately home but not the home itself. The grounds included a coach house and a cottage. The brother got the coach house and the sister the cottage on the passing of the father. The land was supposedly appropriately apportioned and that was that....in 1977.
Same score, then...
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