REALLY sneaky scamera van location
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I think we've all seen locations for "safety" cameras in locations designed to catch the maximum amount of people, as opposed to actual safety concerns, but this morning's was frankly a stroke of brilliance.
On my commute into work, for the last couple of weeks there have been gas/electricity works occurring next to the main road I use - this means that there have been a row of four or five white vans parked on the grass verge adjoining the works, which is close to where a 50 zone goes to 30. Regular commuters will of course be used to them being there now. Of course, that was too good an opportunity to miss, so this morning an extra white van had parked itself nose to tail on the end of the row of builder's vans ....
On my commute into work, for the last couple of weeks there have been gas/electricity works occurring next to the main road I use - this means that there have been a row of four or five white vans parked on the grass verge adjoining the works, which is close to where a 50 zone goes to 30. Regular commuters will of course be used to them being there now. Of course, that was too good an opportunity to miss, so this morning an extra white van had parked itself nose to tail on the end of the row of builder's vans ....
sim72 said:
Sadly not as I was driving (luckily, at that time in the morning, at less than 30mph) and not expecting it. I will definitely try to get one if they try it again next week though (and I'll keep an eye on the local Twitbook groups in case anyone else has got one)!
There is no such thing as a "sneaky camera van location". As I recall the speed limits are well known and clearly marked. If worker safety depends on driver's like you driving in accordance with the law through luck then it would be more than justified to hide more enforcement cameras.
bobmoore said:
In a bank near me they've rigged the cctv up in a light fitting! There is NO WAY that a robber could see it! Dirty, sneaky trick.
Evidence that the brainwashing really does work.Certain people now consider those exceeding speed limits in the same breath as bank robbers.
Tom_C76 said:
So there are blokes working in or by the road? Seems a pretty fair time to ensure anyone ignoring the limit gets caught, speaking as someone whom sometimes has to work near live traffic lanes.
perhaps, those working on/near live traffic lanes should be treated as those who work on live rail networks.First they need a ticket to work on track. They have to obey a set of rules, and traffic can and does report those who flout the rules, and if found, the ticket is removed. I've seen too often,on the road, where someone on rail ,would be censured, but hey this on the road, where it's always ASSUMED that the vehicle driver is the culprit, and its the SPEED of the vehicle that is the cause.
[quote=Who me ?]
First they need a ticket to work on track. They have to obey a set of rules, and traffic can and does report those who flout the rules, and if found, the ticket is removed. I've seen too often,on the road, where someone on rail ,would be censured, but hey this on the road, where it's always ASSUMED that the vehicle driver is the culprit, and its the SPEED of the vehicle that is the cause.
I work on the roads and have qualified for many tickets that are required before I can do so. Each road works has rules to work within. Flout the rules and ticket is removed.Tom_C76 said:
So there are blokes working in or by the road? Seems a pretty fair time to ensure anyone ignoring the limit gets caught, speaking as someone whom sometimes has to work near live traffic lanes.
perhaps, those working on/near live traffic lanes should be treated as those who work on live rail networks.First they need a ticket to work on track. They have to obey a set of rules, and traffic can and does report those who flout the rules, and if found, the ticket is removed. I've seen too often,on the road, where someone on rail ,would be censured, but hey this on the road, where it's always ASSUMED that the vehicle driver is the culprit, and its the SPEED of the vehicle that is the cause.
So it appears you know f-all about working on the roads.
Satlink said:
I work on the roads and have qualified for many tickets that are required before I can do so. Each road works has rules to work within. Flout the rules and ticket is removed.
So it appears you know f-all about working on the roads.
You are somewhat aggressive to other posters on your 'defend the workman man and the camera van drivers' opinions so let me ask you this.So it appears you know f-all about working on the roads.
The example given above that you are so happy with. would you be happier if
1) They continue covertly catching people speeding past the workmen in the road by hiding in amongst the vans
2) They park their van in a clearly visible place next to the workmen so they don't catch anyone, but the cars actually slow up prior to the workmen.
julian64 said:
Satlink said:
I work on the roads and have qualified for many tickets that are required before I can do so. Each road works has rules to work within. Flout the rules and ticket is removed.
So it appears you know f-all about working on the roads.
You are somewhat aggressive to other posters on your 'defend the workman man and the camera van drivers' opinions so let me ask you this.So it appears you know f-all about working on the roads.
The example given above that you are so happy with. would you be happier if
1) They continue covertly catching people speeding past the workmen in the road by hiding in amongst the vans
2) They park their van in a clearly visible place next to the workmen so they don't catch anyone, but the cars actually slow up prior to the workmen.
[quote=Who me ?]
First they need a ticket to work on track. They have to obey a set of rules, and traffic can and does report those who flout the rules, and if found, the ticket is removed. I've seen too often,on the road, where someone on rail ,would be censured, but hey this on the road, where it's always ASSUMED that the vehicle driver is the culprit, and its the SPEED of the vehicle that is the cause.
What's the rail industry's view on train drivers speeding...?Tom_C76 said:
So there are blokes working in or by the road? Seems a pretty fair time to ensure anyone ignoring the limit gets caught, speaking as someone whom sometimes has to work near live traffic lanes.
perhaps, those working on/near live traffic lanes should be treated as those who work on live rail networks.First they need a ticket to work on track. They have to obey a set of rules, and traffic can and does report those who flout the rules, and if found, the ticket is removed. I've seen too often,on the road, where someone on rail ,would be censured, but hey this on the road, where it's always ASSUMED that the vehicle driver is the culprit, and its the SPEED of the vehicle that is the cause.
Edited by schmunk on Monday 8th May 10:51
herewego said:
Dear me, do you really think we can afford to have a speed camera van parked all day at every road works site?
considering a hidden van at this site does absolutely nothing for the safety of the men working I'm not really sure your argument is cogent.If you spend money protecting someone it has to at least achieve the aim.
julian64 said:
The example given above that you are so happy with. would you be happier if
1) They continue covertly catching people speeding past the workmen in the road by hiding in amongst the vans
2) They park their van in a clearly visible place next to the workmen so they don't catch anyone, but the cars actually slow up prior to the workmen.
Yep. If speeding is so dangerous, enforcement that prevents people doing it is more important than catching them when they do.1) They continue covertly catching people speeding past the workmen in the road by hiding in amongst the vans
2) They park their van in a clearly visible place next to the workmen so they don't catch anyone, but the cars actually slow up prior to the workmen.
Some people seem to have this idea that letting people spot the van/camera so they slow down is somehow letting them get away with it. If the placement is genuinely where their speeding is a risk, that's what you WANT them to do, slow down for that bit of road.
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