Police Training Learner Drivers Without L Plates?
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As per the title on my commute into work this morning I was behind a fully liveried police car with a 'driver under instruction' sign on a bit of A4 paper taped to the rear window. It became obvious they couldn't possibly hold a full driving licence from the manner of their driving so I was wondering do the Police regularly train officers with provisional licences in panda cars and do they not have a requirement to have L plates on? (I had a good look, there definitely weren't any L plates)
ModernAndy said:
As per the title on my commute into work this morning I was behind a fully liveried police car with a 'driver under instruction' sign on a bit of A4 paper taped to the rear window. It became obvious they couldn't possibly hold a full driving licence from the manner of their driving so I was wondering do the Police regularly train officers with provisional licences in panda cars and do they not have a requirement to have L plates on? (I had a good look, there definitely weren't any L plates)
Could have passed test a few years ago but not driven since and being given a refresher course?honestly, there's no way this person knew how to drive. We're talking braking down to 5mph about 30-40 metres before roundabouts, not indicating, not doing anything near the speed limit. It wasn't just hesitancy, it was not knowing what they were doing at all. I would be very surprised even if it was a case of somebody holding a full licence years ago.
ModernAndy said:
honestly, there's no way this person knew how to drive. We're talking braking down to 5mph about 30-40 metres before roundabouts, not indicating, not doing anything near the speed limit. It wasn't just hesitancy, it was not knowing what they were doing at all. I would be very surprised even if it was a case of somebody holding a full licence years ago.
They may just be a bad driver, hence why they've probably been made to take an assessment, which by the sounds of it they would've failed. I see plenty of bad drivers with driving licences on the road.They would've had a driving licence though.
HantsRat said:
ModernAndy said:
honestly, there's no way this person knew how to drive. We're talking braking down to 5mph about 30-40 metres before roundabouts, not indicating, not doing anything near the speed limit. It wasn't just hesitancy, it was not knowing what they were doing at all. I would be very surprised even if it was a case of somebody holding a full licence years ago.
They may just be a bad driver, hence why they've probably been made to take an assessment, which by the sounds of it they would've failed. I see plenty of bad drivers with driving licences on the road.They would've had a driving licence though.
ModernAndy said:
Fair enough, bad doesn't even come close in my opinion but I take it they're not allowed to instruct drivers without L plates which was really what I was wondering.
Why? AFAIK L plates are only required to be displayed when the driver only has a provisional licence.They are not mandatory for a full licence holder no matter how bad/inexperienced a driver that person may be.
ModernAndy said:
Fair enough, bad doesn't even come close in my opinion but I take it they're not allowed to instruct drivers without L plates which was really what I was wondering.
They are a full licence holder, therefore they don't need to display L-Plates. I've got my response course soon, although I'm going to be taught how to drive on blue lights etc. I'm not a learner driver with a provisional licence, so no need to display L-Plates.ModernAndy said:
Fair enough, bad doesn't even come close in my opinion but I take it they're not allowed to instruct drivers without L plates which was really what I was wondering.
The same rules appy to police ADI instructor as a civilian.Does driver have full or provisional licence for class of vehicle? If full they can be trained without L plates no matter how bad.
If they have provisional licence the instructor needs to be an ADI and display L plates.
If you concerned make a compliant.
ModernAndy said:
honestly, there's no way this person knew how to drive. We're talking braking down to 5mph about 30-40 metres before roundabouts, not indicating, not doing anything near the speed limit. It wasn't just hesitancy, it was not knowing what they were doing at all. I would be very surprised even if it was a case of somebody holding a full licence years ago.
Wow, that is some superpower you have, seeing into peoples wallets from a good distance away, if everyone who drove badly was taken off the roads they would be pretty empty, unfortunately the vast majority of them do have a licence.No doubt you are a driving god who nobody would ever think was a crap driver?
I should have known the whingers would have to get a word in on this. I have no desire to make a complaint (not having a go at you Surveyor- your post was very much to the point), there was no safe place to overtake as this was in an urban area otherwise I would have had no problem doing so if appropriate and I consider myself a driver who prioritises safe driving rather than a driving god. I'm really not sure why you'd think that making these observations would elevate me to this level, I think it's fairly clear when a learner driver is driving a driving school car rather than their instructor.
I was merely wondering if the Police could take provisional licence holders out without L plates as the driving struck me as that of a learner driver on their first or perhaps second lesson.
I was merely wondering if the Police could take provisional licence holders out without L plates as the driving struck me as that of a learner driver on their first or perhaps second lesson.
ModernAndy said:
SVTRick said:
What pointless posting, some people need to get out more often.
So your hanging off the back of a Police car, when safe to do so overtake it FFS.
just to confirm, a safe distance between the cars was there at all times. Tailgating is retarded.So your hanging off the back of a Police car, when safe to do so overtake it FFS.
kiethton said:
ModernAndy said:
SVTRick said:
What pointless posting, some people need to get out more often.
So your hanging off the back of a Police car, when safe to do so overtake it FFS.
just to confirm, a safe distance between the cars was there at all times. Tailgating is retarded.So your hanging off the back of a Police car, when safe to do so overtake it FFS.
99dndd said:
Unless it's maybe an elderly or disabled driver with a full license taking a test to determine if they should still hold that license?
You think the police take out people in police cars to see if they are up to standard? I know the rules on self incrimination don't apply to driving - but it would be a bit of a liberty to force people to drive around in a police car to see if you deem them good enough. photosnob said:
99dndd said:
Unless it's maybe an elderly or disabled driver with a full license taking a test to determine if they should still hold that license?
You think the police take out people in police cars to see if they are up to standard? I know the rules on self incrimination don't apply to driving - but it would be a bit of a liberty to force people to drive around in a police car to see if you deem them good enough. Forums | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff