Police officers rant
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Just read on the BBC that a police officer has posted on GMP's website a bit of a rant. He is now apparently in trouble for telling the reality of policing. The full post is below.
For me he has obviously become frustrated with the situation that many officers now feel hopeless against a tide of parents whose kids do no worng and a system that is on it's knees and officer are more likely to be punished than praised.
I hope someone see's sense although the name calling of PCSO will be the bit he is in trouble for.
Police officer's rant in full
"Good Morning everyone
.
"An update on what's occurred in the area over the past 24hrs or so. It would be very quiet if it wasn't for one thing...or several "things"
"Kids/Yoofs/Yobs/Delinquents (cross out which one).
"There was a call to Heron Drive, Irlam to youths sitting or jumping on vehicles. The youths had gone home to mummy when officers arrived and no damage was found.
"There was a report of drunken youths on the fields at Sandy Lane, Irlam. Again, they had made off back to mummy, probably claiming that they had been doing their science project homework at a mates. How to get alcohol out of £3.60 dinner money.
"Please try and find out what your little Keanu or Beyonce are doing at night. If they're drinking or smoking weed, there will be signs. If they are, they will no doubt be causing mither in the street.
"Youths were throwing stones at residents houses and residents themselves, from the railway viaduct over Roseway Avenue, Cadishead.
"And finally, there was a call to Tesco at Woodrow Way, Irlam. Security called to report one man and his dog at the Cashpoint machines.
"Many cashpoint areas have points where you can leave deposits for the bank. They did so.... Defecating at the cashpoint... Not the dog.... The man.We have a description (Of the man- not the deposit) and CCTV of the incident. The dog is entirely innocent... Wonder if it's a shih-tzu?
"Only me in today as the PCSO's don't work on Sunday's. They have the day off to play with their crayons and Lego.
"Take care and lock your kids up till school time on Monday."
For me he has obviously become frustrated with the situation that many officers now feel hopeless against a tide of parents whose kids do no worng and a system that is on it's knees and officer are more likely to be punished than praised.
I hope someone see's sense although the name calling of PCSO will be the bit he is in trouble for.
Police officer's rant in full
"Good Morning everyone
.
"An update on what's occurred in the area over the past 24hrs or so. It would be very quiet if it wasn't for one thing...or several "things"
"Kids/Yoofs/Yobs/Delinquents (cross out which one).
"There was a call to Heron Drive, Irlam to youths sitting or jumping on vehicles. The youths had gone home to mummy when officers arrived and no damage was found.
"There was a report of drunken youths on the fields at Sandy Lane, Irlam. Again, they had made off back to mummy, probably claiming that they had been doing their science project homework at a mates. How to get alcohol out of £3.60 dinner money.
"Please try and find out what your little Keanu or Beyonce are doing at night. If they're drinking or smoking weed, there will be signs. If they are, they will no doubt be causing mither in the street.
"Youths were throwing stones at residents houses and residents themselves, from the railway viaduct over Roseway Avenue, Cadishead.
"And finally, there was a call to Tesco at Woodrow Way, Irlam. Security called to report one man and his dog at the Cashpoint machines.
"Many cashpoint areas have points where you can leave deposits for the bank. They did so.... Defecating at the cashpoint... Not the dog.... The man.We have a description (Of the man- not the deposit) and CCTV of the incident. The dog is entirely innocent... Wonder if it's a shih-tzu?
"Only me in today as the PCSO's don't work on Sunday's. They have the day off to play with their crayons and Lego.
"Take care and lock your kids up till school time on Monday."
Butter Face said:
The PCSO comment 
Not really funny is it. I'd imagine most PCSO's actually aspire to be police officers. And rather than being role models this bloke has publically humiliated them.
They are his colleagues. I'm currently doing something (new to me) meaning I'm at the bottom of the ladder. My main boss above me treats me with respect and tries to encourage me rather than put me down. It means I work a lot harder. If someone in between was to be so condescending and arrogant I'd be fuming, and I'm certain that action would be taken.
What's more it looks just a bit pathetic, doesn't it. I can't imagine whoever did this is looking forward to going into work after this.
Who me said:
Poor bloke, not only has he incurred the wrath of the PC brigade in respect of his assessment of PCSO- he's incited the PH grammar police.
'PC brigade' i.e. those who think it's unprofessional to use the organisation's social media to make unprofessional, undermining comments about a major role within the same organisation. The punctuation errors were highlighted because they were ironic given the implications carried with the word 'crayons'.
photosnob said:
Butter Face said:
The PCSO comment
Not really funny is it. I'd imagine most PCSO's actually aspire to be police officers. And rather than being role models this bloke has publically humiliated them.
They are his colleagues. I'm currently doing something (new to me) meaning I'm at the bottom of the ladder. My main boss above me treats me with respect and tries to encourage me rather than put me down. It means I work a lot harder. If someone in between was to be so condescending and arrogant I'd be fuming, and I'm certain that action would be taken.
What's more it looks just a bit pathetic, doesn't it. I can't imagine whoever did this is looking forward to going into work after this.
Not 'really' funny but quite funny................
La Liga said:
Who me said:
Poor bloke, not only has he incurred the wrath of the PC brigade in respect of his assessment of PCSO- he's incited the PH grammar police.
'PC brigade' i.e. those who think it's unprofessional to use the organisation's social media to make unprofessional, undermining comments about a major role within the same organisation. The punctuation errors were highlighted because they were ironic given the implications carried with the word 'crayons'.
The scrotes know they have little power and have to call up the police when there is anything that needs to be done.
That doesn't mean they are bad people but they are an ineffectual fudge to placate people who want a uniformed person walking around.
I read the comment as one of frustration. It also re enforces my view that police should not waste resource on social media, if it wasn't there he would not have posted what he did and there would be no investigation.
photosnob said:
Not really funny is it.
I'd imagine most PCSO's actually aspire to be police officers. And rather than being role models this bloke has publically humiliated them.
I'd give the guy a medal for being brave enough not only in the world of policing but actually standing up against the political correctness craap and basically feeling the need to let people know how bad things are.I'd imagine most PCSO's actually aspire to be police officers. And rather than being role models this bloke has publically humiliated them.
Regarding PCSOs: I've never liked the PCSO concept. I think there should simply be more police officers.
And I'd like to see police officers fit for purpose instead of PCSO's that I often see in my part of the world whereby they couldn't outrun a pizza topping.
It's normally the ARVs who get the crayon comments...!
On the contrary to a few posts here, PCSOs are really very useful from a resourcing point of view. They can pick up found bags of drugs from pubs, collect CCTV from places, move kids along causing ASB, help with traffic control at RTCs, sit and await boarding up or vehicle recovery following an incident...
All of those things would otherwise require the use of a warranted officer, and very quickly result in a whole response shift being tied up on "nothing" jobs.
On the contrary to a few posts here, PCSOs are really very useful from a resourcing point of view. They can pick up found bags of drugs from pubs, collect CCTV from places, move kids along causing ASB, help with traffic control at RTCs, sit and await boarding up or vehicle recovery following an incident...
All of those things would otherwise require the use of a warranted officer, and very quickly result in a whole response shift being tied up on "nothing" jobs.
Atomic12C said:
I'd give the guy a medal for being brave enough not only in the world of policing but actually standing up against the political correctness craap and basically feeling the need to let people know how bad things are.
Regarding PCSOs: I've never liked the PCSO concept. I think there should simply be more police officers.
And I'd like to see police officers fit for purpose instead of PCSO's that I often see in my part of the world whereby they couldn't outrun a pizza topping.
You'd give someone a medal for posting something on the internet? Regarding PCSOs: I've never liked the PCSO concept. I think there should simply be more police officers.
And I'd like to see police officers fit for purpose instead of PCSO's that I often see in my part of the world whereby they couldn't outrun a pizza topping.
I think there should be less legislation and drugs should be decriminalized and addiction should be treated as a medical condition rather than a criminal act. But it's not going to happen. Nor are the government going to spend loads of money on more police officers. Ridiculing junior colleagues and being arrogant and condescending makes you a bully in my book. Doing it on the internet makes you a bit of a loser as well.
Given the government are unlikely to pour money into policing - actively alienating and pissing off your colleagues isn't a smart move. I have no idea what a PCSO can and cannot do. But I'm sure they are a lot more useful what they feel valued and respected.
Atomic12C said:
Regarding PCSOs: I've never liked the PCSO concept. I think there should simply be more police officers.
And I'd like to see police officers fit for purpose instead of PCSO's that I often see in my part of the world whereby they couldn't outrun a pizza topping.
The PCSO comment is out,of line. My understanding is that much of GMP use PCSOs as the second man in a two man crew. They've effectively become a part of the force but on the cheap for the Gov't. It's bang out of line that that's considered acceptable by Westminster, but that's the way it is. Bashing them is therefore out of order when they actually form a fairly crucial role in some areas.And I'd like to see police officers fit for purpose instead of PCSO's that I often see in my part of the world whereby they couldn't outrun a pizza topping.
As for everything else he said, daft to put himself in that position, but I don't see any harm in saying it like it is.
photosnob said:
You'd give someone a medal for posting something on the internet?
I think there should be less legislation and drugs should be decriminalized and addiction should be treated as a medical condition rather than a criminal act. But it's not going to happen. Nor are the government going to spend loads of money on more police officers. Ridiculing junior colleagues and being arrogant and condescending makes you a bully in my book. Doing it on the internet makes you a bit of a loser as well.
Given the government are unlikely to pour money into policing - actively alienating and pissing off your colleagues isn't a smart move. I have no idea what a PCSO can and cannot do. But I'm sure they are a lot more useful what they feel valued and respected.
Why do you want a medal too?I think there should be less legislation and drugs should be decriminalized and addiction should be treated as a medical condition rather than a criminal act. But it's not going to happen. Nor are the government going to spend loads of money on more police officers. Ridiculing junior colleagues and being arrogant and condescending makes you a bully in my book. Doing it on the internet makes you a bit of a loser as well.
Given the government are unlikely to pour money into policing - actively alienating and pissing off your colleagues isn't a smart move. I have no idea what a PCSO can and cannot do. But I'm sure they are a lot more useful what they feel valued and respected.
Or are you just saying that to make a pedantic point?
Well I guess your point is that people on the internet can not change a darn thing. Which then brings us back to the police officer's rant... he should be free to do so in my book - even though any change of policing or government policy is unlikely.
I kinda guess the above was already taken as a given.
But your point on bullying - really? Is everyone in the UK really at a point on a trigger whereby they have to become so offended by comments on social media that result in no likely change?
Maybe there are - which is a sad state of affairs.
I thought the 'jibe' given by the officer was more 'jokey' than any form of serious 'attack'.... but then if one is so easily offended then should they really be involving themselves in the world of policing?
What are they likely going to do when a yoof shouts abuse at them - abuse that will no doubt contain an amount of vigor?
If they are to take offense and the officer's comments then they are not likely to last two minutes in 'the field'.
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