Question about Vector cameras...
Discussion
Confused! Some sites say that if it is grey then it is not used for speeding fines. Only yellow pick up speeding.
Other sites say there must be a minimum distance of 34 meters between cameras to detect speeding.
Other sites also say that you must be in the same lane for the fine to be reinforced. A lot of conflicting information out there on changing lane means no fine etc.
Situation: Two cameras before Hanger Lane Roundabout heading toward Ealing (West London). Went through first camera at 50. Drove whole journey according to lawful speeds Mr Officer. Then... a Mercedes A class cut in front... van up behind me so couldn't brake hard... swerved lanes... and ended up picking up speed as traffic was moving faster in the far right. Got up to 60mph... and then back down to 55mph before the second camera just before the lights.
My question is... how do these cameras work exactly? Is it likely that if someone does 60-55 for a second or two between cameras then they will be caught? Despite the rest of the journey sticking to the limit?
Never had a speeding fine or penalty of any sorts in 30 years... certainly don't want one now considering insurance premium seems to rise everywhere year regardless.
Thanks.
Other sites say there must be a minimum distance of 34 meters between cameras to detect speeding.
Other sites also say that you must be in the same lane for the fine to be reinforced. A lot of conflicting information out there on changing lane means no fine etc.
Situation: Two cameras before Hanger Lane Roundabout heading toward Ealing (West London). Went through first camera at 50. Drove whole journey according to lawful speeds Mr Officer. Then... a Mercedes A class cut in front... van up behind me so couldn't brake hard... swerved lanes... and ended up picking up speed as traffic was moving faster in the far right. Got up to 60mph... and then back down to 55mph before the second camera just before the lights.
My question is... how do these cameras work exactly? Is it likely that if someone does 60-55 for a second or two between cameras then they will be caught? Despite the rest of the journey sticking to the limit?
Never had a speeding fine or penalty of any sorts in 30 years... certainly don't want one now considering insurance premium seems to rise everywhere year regardless.
Thanks.
There's a lot of duff / out of date info out there. Ignore any 'advice' whoch states you can't be prosecuted because of camera colour, lack of signage, lane changing between cameras etc.
They calculate average speed between two fixed points using ANPR and the simple speed = distance / time formula. If the cameras are active and a vehicle's average speed over any enforcement zone is equal to or greater than the enforcement threshold (typically limit plus 10% plus 2mph) then the RK can probably expect something to drop through their letterbox within a fortnight.
They calculate average speed between two fixed points using ANPR and the simple speed = distance / time formula. If the cameras are active and a vehicle's average speed over any enforcement zone is equal to or greater than the enforcement threshold (typically limit plus 10% plus 2mph) then the RK can probably expect something to drop through their letterbox within a fortnight.
Blue Oval84 said:
The van was so close that he forced you to increase your speed?
Anyway, sure you'll be fine, doesn't sound like your average crept above 55...
I read it as OP had 3 choices, 1. ram the car that cut him up 2. brake heavily to avoid the car that cut him up and be rearended by a van, 3. accelerate into the faster moving outside lane, avoiding potential collisions with both vehicles. Given the choice between 1/2 which will result in significant costs, 3 is the sensible option and a physical human policeman would hopefully see it that way. However camera enforcement does not consider context. Notwithstanding that, even if the OP is fined, it will still be cheaper than the hassle and insurance increase that would result from having an accident, and therefore remains the logical action.Anyway, sure you'll be fine, doesn't sound like your average crept above 55...
speedking31 said:
read it as OP had 3 choices, 1. ram the car that cut him up 2. brake heavily to avoid the car that cut him up and be rearended by a van, 3. accelerate into the faster moving outside lane, avoiding potential collisions with both vehicles. Given the choice between 1/2 which will result in significant costs, 3 is the sensible option and a physical human policeman would hopefully see it that way. However camera enforcement does not consider context. Notwithstanding that, even if the OP is fined, it will still be cheaper than the hassle and insurance increase that would result from having an accident, and therefore remains the logical action.
That sums it up. Logic took over. I will take the fine. It will be a first. If there is a fine. I wanted to know how the cameras work as there is duff information as mentioned above.Using a time and distance calculation. My average would have been 56 mph so I might be okay. Whatever happens happens. No one was hurt.
If you travelled most of the distance between cameras at the correct speed I doubt you will be fined.
if your car was made in germany the speedo probably reads 3mph fast anyway.
And if you had a big van slip-streaming you I cannot see how the second camera would even be able to see your rear number plate?
if your car was made in germany the speedo probably reads 3mph fast anyway.
And if you had a big van slip-streaming you I cannot see how the second camera would even be able to see your rear number plate?
Super_G said:
Thank you. Will play the waiting game then.
You'd have to cover much more distance than a quick lane change at that speed to be fined by the average speed camera, simple arithmetic.. They also have a reasonable threshold set anyway, I often travel on A9 on the 60mph limit stretches following other cars at average 63-64mph according to a GPS speedometer and never got fined.Don't worry.
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