Loony on a motorbike - what offences?

[BertBert]

Was coming southbound on the M1 last night and spotted an odd looking flashing yellow light coming up from behind. Eventually see it's an idiot on a motorbike with no front lights at all apart from a flashing rh indicator!

As well as thinking what an utter wker, I was wondering what offences he was guilty of.

Bert

[marting]

BertBert said:

As well as thinking what an utter wker, I was wondering what offences he was guilty of.

All of them?

[trickywoo]

Being a badass.

[MrBarry123]

trickywoo said:

Being a badass.

[BertBert]

trickywoo said:

Being a badass.

[Dog Star]

As in his lights weren't working, or it was a race fairing and there were none present.

Also - could it have been an R1 - on first inspection my bike looks like it has no front lights...

[Monkeylegend]

BertBert said:

As well as thinking what an otter wker, I was wondering what offences he was guilty of.

Bert

I am sure that's an offence for a start.

[BertBert]

It was an old bike, definitely with no front lights working. At one stage in temp roadworks, single file he was riding behind me and turned off his indicator. Virtually invisible! Perhaps he was in stealth mode!

[STe_rsv4]

At what time was this? was it dark? He may have had a daytime mot.
so his indicator was flashing, was he changing lanes?
why was he a wker?

[STe_rsv4]

BertBert said:

It was an old bike, definitely with no front lights working. At one stage in temp roadworks, single file he was riding behind me and turned off his indicator. Virtually invisible! Perhaps he was in stealth mode!

Virtually invisible?
was he wearing road coloured clothing with white stripes dotted along them to blend in?

[BertBert]

STe_rsv4 said:

Virtually invisible?
was he wearing road coloured clothing with white stripes dotted along them to blend in?

Errrrrr, the clue was in the first post.... using the word 'night', which I often find to be dark!

[STe_rsv4]

BertBert said:

STe_rsv4 said:

Virtually invisible?
was he wearing road coloured clothing with white stripes dotted along them to blend in?

Errrrrr, the clue was in the first post.... using the word 'night', which I often find to be dark!

it gets dark at 4pm in winter, is that still night
so now we have ascertained he was riding in the dark with no lights. yes, he is a complete chump!

[Dog Star]

STe_rsv4 said:

He may have had a daytime mot.

No such thing.

(sorry - personal bugbear of mine)

[gareth_r]

Dog Star said:

STe_rsv4 said:

He may have had a daytime mot.

No such thing.

(sorry - personal bugbear of mine)

However, it is useful shorthand for "an MOT pass with an advisory stating that the vehicle has no lights and may not, therefore, be used in darkness or when there is reduced visibility" (or whatever the official wording is).

[Dog Star]

"Lights taped up" I've had (even though they weren't)

Still means nothing - if you untaped them or fitted them the next day then your bike would be quite legal at night.

[Ilovejapcrap]

Sounds like he was out and his lights broke.

If that's the case what do you want him to do light a candle

[Gavia]

BertBert said:

It was an old bike, definitely with no front lights working. At one stage in temp roadworks, single file he was riding behind me and turned off his indicator. Virtually invisible! Perhaps he was in stealth mode!

Older bikes don't have lights on the front, which I think is a recipe for disaster, but that's their call. Why are you upset about it thought? If the rider was going faster than you, then just move over and let them past.

[Pothole]

Gavia said:

BertBert said:

It was an old bike, definitely with no front lights working. At one stage in temp roadworks, single file he was riding behind me and turned off his indicator. Virtually invisible! Perhaps he was in stealth mode!

Older bikes don't have lights on the front, which I think is a recipe for disaster, but that's their call. Why are you upset about it thought? If the rider was going faster than you, then just move over and let them past.

What older bikes don't?

[Stormfly1985]

Ilovejapcrap said:

Sounds like he was out and his lights broke.

If that's the case what do you want him to do light a candle

Perhaps stop and call a recovery service/mate etc?

Under what circumstances would it be acceptable to ride a motorbike at night with no lights?

[STe_rsv4]

gareth_r said:

Dog Star said:

STe_rsv4 said:

He may have had a daytime mot.

No such thing.

(sorry - personal bugbear of mine)

However, it is useful shorthand for "an MOT pass with an advisory stating that the vehicle has no lights and may not, therefore, be used in darkness or when there is reduced visibility" (or whatever the official wording is).

Thanks! I couldn't be bothered to write the full description.