Impersonating a Police Officer.......
Impersonating a Police Officer.......
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anonymous-user

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84 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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.......gets you an 'adult caution' - well that's a massive deterrent to anyone considering doing the same.

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HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Did you not read the article?

He wasn't given a caution for 'Impersonating a police officer' He was given a caution for:
- Possessing an article of police uniform
- Use vehicle on road with blue warning lamp

It doesn't look like he was stopped whilst using the light and there doesn't appear to be evidence to suggest he identified himself as a police officer to anyone hence Dorset police asking for anyone that have encounter this male.

james_tigerwoods

16,347 posts

227 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Interestingly, I've wondered about this - There's a Jag XF (I think) in Maroon that is regualrly parked near me (on a Terraced street in Wombwell). I'm not 100% sure if it's an unmarked car or if it's a senior officer's car or whatever, but if you look at it, you can clearly see recessed lights in the grill (can't see the colour), what looks like cameras in the front and in the back.

I've never seen any identification of him as a police officer, nor have I seen the lights in use - If this is a police car, should it be kept elsewhere? If it isn't a police car, could the owner be cited for anything?

Jonno02

2,262 posts

139 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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james_tigerwoods said:
Interestingly, I've wondered about this - There's a Jag XF (I think) in Maroon that is regualrly parked near me (on a Terraced street in Wombwell). I'm not 100% sure if it's an unmarked car or if it's a senior officer's car or whatever, but if you look at it, you can clearly see recessed lights in the grill (can't see the colour), what looks like cameras in the front and in the back.

I've never seen any identification of him as a police officer, nor have I seen the lights in use - If this is a police car, should it be kept elsewhere? If it isn't a police car, could the owner be cited for anything?
Possibly a personal response car for a medical professional etc?

TheRainMaker

7,882 posts

272 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Could be anything, all the services use unmarked cars.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

209 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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happen in somerset yeovil area.

Lad around 25 has e60 5 series even setup a website avonadsomersetpolice.co.uk on the back window.

http://www.yeovilpress.co.uk/blog/2014/01/15/man-t...

...in 2014 he tried it on in a bookies then >


https://www.swindon24.co.uk/news/officers-arrest-m...

same guy have been following on Facebook and seems to have been given his stuff back just the uninstalled his lights from the car.

scorcher

4,127 posts

264 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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james_tigerwoods said:
I'm not 100% sure if it's an unmarked car or if it's a senior officer's car or whatever, but if you look at it, you can clearly see recessed lights in the grill (can't see the colour), what looks like cameras in the front and in the back.
Plain clothes Ambiwlans car ?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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HantsRat said:
Did you not read the article?

He wasn't given a caution for 'Impersonating a police officer' He was given a caution for:
- Possessing an article of police uniform
- Use vehicle on road with blue warning lamp

It doesn't look like he was stopped whilst using the light and there doesn't appear to be evidence to suggest he identified himself as a police officer to anyone hence Dorset police asking for anyone that have encounter this male.
Whats your point? - he was charged with that yes - but in my view having copper uniform and making your car look like an undercover police car counts as impersonating

Stick Legs

8,951 posts

195 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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In the days when I had a dark blue Omega Elite saloon I did put 'clean' number plates on it and removed all of the stickers from the windows to try and make it look as 'official' as possible. Put a snooper in the front window where the police usually have equipment.

It was amusing to say the least how many people moved over sharpish when it was behind them on the motorway.

Never used it for nefarious ends, but it did make the outside lane kind of my own.

Not impersonating but more like imitating? smile

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Who_Goes_Blue said:
Whats your point? - he was charged with that yes - but in my view having copper uniform and making your car look like an undercover police car counts as impersonating
He didn't have a copper uniform. He had a fake badge found in his wallet upon a search. Unless he showed people his 'badge' or started pulling people over saying he is police, it's not impersonation. Odd indeed but not impersonation.






55palfers

6,378 posts

194 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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There's loads of them at it round my way.

They've got the cars, uniforms, radios, boots, the lot.

They all only look about 14 though - I don't know how they get away with it!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Who_Goes_Blue said:
HantsRat said:
Did you not read the article?

He wasn't given a caution for 'Impersonating a police officer' He was given a caution for:
- Possessing an article of police uniform
- Use vehicle on road with blue warning lamp

It doesn't look like he was stopped whilst using the light and there doesn't appear to be evidence to suggest he identified himself as a police officer to anyone hence Dorset police asking for anyone that have encounter this male.
Whats your point? - he was charged with that yes - but in my view having copper uniform and making your car look like an undercover police car counts as impersonating
His point is that you are equating 'impersonating a police officer' with an adult caution when the two aren't linked here.

What you think counts as 'impersonating a police officer' doesn't matter. It's what he was caution for (he wasn't charged) that matters.


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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La Liga said:
Who_Goes_Blue said:
HantsRat said:
Did you not read the article?

He wasn't given a caution for 'Impersonating a police officer' He was given a caution for:
- Possessing an article of police uniform
- Use vehicle on road with blue warning lamp

It doesn't look like he was stopped whilst using the light and there doesn't appear to be evidence to suggest he identified himself as a police officer to anyone hence Dorset police asking for anyone that have encounter this male.
Whats your point? - he was charged with that yes - but in my view having copper uniform and making your car look like an undercover police car counts as impersonating
His point is that you are equating 'impersonating a police officer' with an adult caution when the two aren't linked here.

What you think counts as 'impersonating a police officer' doesn't matter. It's what he was caution for (he wasn't charged) that matters.
Round here the chances of getting stopped randomly are dwindling rapidly - I rarely see a traffic cop on the road. So its fairly reasonable to assume that the reason this chap has been tugged is due to a public tip off. Also tallies with the officers finding a police badge in his wallet. Now i`ve been stopped on occasion and never been asked to show them the contents of my wallet, ergo they suspected something was in there. He may not have been impersonating an officer at the time, but you can be fairly he had been doing so prior to that. Obviously the police were not confident of gathering enough evidence to get a charge to stick, so went with a caution. Still sends the wrong message - that provided the police dont catch you in the act, you`ll get off very lightly.

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Key word above... 'Assume'

You don't know the facts and neither do I. I was simply saying your thread title of 'Impersonating a Police officer... get's you a caution' Is incorrect.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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HantsRat said:
Key word above... 'Assume'

You don't know the facts and neither do I. I was simply saying your thread title of 'Impersonating a Police officer... get's you a caution' Is incorrect.
Surely if my thread title is wrong on the basis that we dont know if he had previously been impersonating an officer, then your assertion that my thread title is wrong is also wrong on the very same basis. Snookered chum tongue out, shall we call it a draw?

littleredrooster

6,397 posts

226 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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55palfers said:
There's loads of them at it round my way.

They've got the cars, uniforms, radios, boots, the lot.

They all only look about 14 though - I don't know how they get away with it!
laughlaugh

Aye - same around here! Sergeant looks like a 6th-former though smile

voyds9

8,490 posts

313 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Should have had a PCSO badge they seem to get away with impersonation

techguyone

3,137 posts

172 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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At least the days of people with (solid) blue lights on their cars being pulled over for 'impersonating a police car' seem to be over. I remember seeing a load of those in the late 90's ely 2000's when those blue led washers were popular with the youngsters.

I was never sure which was more stupid, plod for pulling or the youngster for thinking it looked cool.

f1ten

2,165 posts

183 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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:monkey:

silverfoxcc

8,468 posts

175 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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On a similar theme, was in a car with a mates mate, who was 'annoyed' by a complete idiot

Next set of lights he was out the car and at the drivers windo

He just said 'If i were in uniform i would report you' and walked back to the car

Asked him if he was in the police

No he said i just wear a uniform at work, i work on British Rail.... but he doesn't know that does he' and i NEVER said i was police did i?

Now what would happen if he said that to someone who was in the police, could he have got done?