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RB Will

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10,863 posts

270 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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This article has popped up in the local news today. Woman regularly thieving from here there and everywhere.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/15614211.W...

Is it just me that finds it mental that the most expensive thing she steals gets the least punishment?

My friend was the arresting officer in this one. She stole the handbag from one of the receptionists at our local hospital and took the car, led the police on a 10 min chase which ended with the car getting rather bent but repairable rather than written off.
For stealing the car, and presumably failing to stop, driving uninsured etc and she only has to pay a fine of £89!

The poor bugger that had her car stolen and trashed is going to be paying 5 times that when she has to cough up for the excess and future premium hike etc.

How does it work that stealing the car and all that entails gets 1/5 of the fine that stealing some booze from M&S gets?

Edited by RB Will on Tuesday 24th October 14:50

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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The victim should have asked the Court to make an order for the thief to pay an amount of compensation.

Cold

16,723 posts

120 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
The victim should have asked the Court to make an order for the thief to pay an amount of compensation.
Thief is probably skint so would need an income to pay any court fines and would most likely supplement this by criminal means.

Dr Tad Winslow

52 posts

108 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Link is messed up

KAgantua

5,189 posts

161 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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working url?

guindilias

5,245 posts

150 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Magistrates and Judges are a bit of a mixed bunch, really - http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ir...

Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.

She was bailed by another panel of judges 2 days later... ended up with 10 hours community service on appeal.

WJNB

2,637 posts

191 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Sorry no understand there being no such word as REDICULOUS. Ridiculous yes.
Don't schools teach spelling anymore?

Retroman

975 posts

163 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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I would never advocate anything illegal, especially violence but it's hardly a surprise that some people deal with matters like this on their own rather than call the police when the justice system doesn't always work.

wack

2,103 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
The victim should have asked the Court to make an order for the thief to pay an amount of compensation.
No money = no compensation

In the 80s my sister had her mirror kicked off while parked in town , caught on CCTV , recognised , arrested, prosecuted , fined and ordered to pay for the mirror

She never got a penny , she contacted the court a few times but got fobbed off, last contact she was told he'd moved and they didn't know where he was

I doubt much has changed , house,car and savings and you pay, if you've got nothing they can't take it from you

I bet the solicitor defending him got paid though

Red Devil

13,520 posts

238 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Bring these back.into general use - https://goo.gl/maps/QLPG2Jai6zS2
Allow the public to pelt the offenders with rotten fruit and veg.
And make the scrotes clear it up afterwards.
smile
Unfortunatelyit will never happen: the ECHR would call it degrading and inhuman punishment.

bad company

21,919 posts

296 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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A chum of mine is in jail for trying to avoid paying parking tickets by claiming that his vehicle was cloned. Hardly the crime of the century but he still got 4 months.

His sentence does seem severe compared to this scrot or should I say scrotess?

W124Bob

1,863 posts

205 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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bad company said:
A chum of mine is in jail for trying to avoid paying parking tickets by claiming that his vehicle was cloned. Hardly the crime of the century but he still got 4 months.

His sentence does seem severe compared to this scrot or should I say scrotess?
Yes but he's swindled the authorities out of cash so must be punished!

bad company

21,919 posts

296 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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W124Bob said:
bad company said:
A chum of mine is in jail for trying to avoid paying parking tickets by claiming that his vehicle was cloned. Hardly the crime of the century but he still got 4 months.

His sentence does seem severe compared to this scrot or should I say scrotess?
Yes but he's swindled the authorities out of cash so must be punished!
That’s probably right Bob.

havoc

33,430 posts

265 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Probably guidance from on-high not to jail unless necessary as jails are overcrowded already.

Plus a realisation that any monetary fine is going to be a joke anyway as she'll never pay.

Others have said already...we're closing on the point now where the criminals realise that they can do what they like with near-impunity, due to the low probability of (a) being caught; and (b) receiving any sort of meaningful sentence if they are caught.

tigger1

8,476 posts

251 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Ridiculous.

Derek Smith

49,892 posts

278 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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havoc said:
Probably guidance from on-high not to jail unless necessary as jails are overcrowded already.

Plus a realisation that any monetary fine is going to be a joke anyway as she'll never pay.

Others have said already...we're closing on the point now where the criminals realise that they can do what they like with near-impunity, due to the low probability of (a) being caught; and (b) receiving any sort of meaningful sentence if they are caught.
You think this hasn't arrived already?

Research suggests that the fear of getting caught is the bigger deterrent of the two, and by some margin. With more crimes being sleeved at an early stage, there is little to stop them.

There's a bit on the news this morning about mobile phone use in cars. Anyone who drives will not be surprised at the 34% who reckon that they regularly use their phones hand held when driving. It's the very low chance of being caught that is encouraging them to offend. Increasing the penalty will do little to stop them.

Increase the likelihood of being caught offending and you will decrease the frequency of offending. Look at speeding. There has been a substantial drop in the number of speeding drivers on motorways due to the number of speed cameras that are believed to be around. Yet speeding on dual carriageways has reduced as well, despite fewer cameras. It is not the fine that stops them, it is that they might get caught.

The only reason fines and other penalties increase is to show that the government is doing something about a particular offence or offences. Smoke and mirrors. We're in a situation where penalties are so high for some offences that they are unfair.


Boydie88

3,283 posts

179 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Never have understood this with Police chases.

Why is the culprit not charged for the multiple speed limits broken etc.

Go through a speed camera and you end up with a bigger fine than fleeing from Police. Mental.

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

206 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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tigger1 said:
Ridiculous.
Yes U, Are;

tigger1

8,476 posts

251 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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PAULJ5555 said:
tigger1 said:
Ridiculous.
Yes U, Are;
So is your face.