What would happen to the driver (rta)
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What would be the consequences to a driver if he/she run a red light (pelican crossing) colliding with a pedestrian causing injury, broken bones etc.
This did happen to someone I know, i wasn't involved, I just wondered what would be the outcome to the driver. After reading the 10 pence short occurrence just yesterday and then this happening today I wondered what would happen.
No mitigating circumstances except for low laying sun, dazzling the driver causing them not to see the red light or the ped. An accident although if you really can't see I suppose you arguably should pull over.
This did happen to someone I know, i wasn't involved, I just wondered what would be the outcome to the driver. After reading the 10 pence short occurrence just yesterday and then this happening today I wondered what would happen.
No mitigating circumstances except for low laying sun, dazzling the driver causing them not to see the red light or the ped. An accident although if you really can't see I suppose you arguably should pull over.
If there are no other factors than described (such as using a mobile phone or speeding) I think most likely is a charge of "careless driving". Probably resulting in a shortish driving ban and a fine, or maybe just points and a fine?
They've been talking about significantly increasing the recommended sentences for this sort of thing but I don't think anything has actually happened about it yet.
ETA: If they can make a "dangerous driving" charge stick, a custodial sentence isn't out of the question but it'd probably be suspended.
They've been talking about significantly increasing the recommended sentences for this sort of thing but I don't think anything has actually happened about it yet.
ETA: If they can make a "dangerous driving" charge stick, a custodial sentence isn't out of the question but it'd probably be suspended.
Edited by kambites on Friday 27th October 18:20
coljoh148 said:
What would be the consequences to a driver if he/she run a red light (pelican crossing) colliding with a pedestrian causing injury, broken bones etc.
This did happen to someone I know, i wasn't involved, I just wondered what would be the outcome to the driver. After reading the 10 pence short occurrence just yesterday and then this happening today I wondered what would happen.
No mitigating circumstances except for low laying sun, dazzling the driver causing them not to see the red light or the ped. An accident although if you really can't see I suppose you arguably should pull over.
Cyclist rather than a pedestrian but similar circumstances - http://road.cc/content/news/142213-driver-blinded-...This did happen to someone I know, i wasn't involved, I just wondered what would be the outcome to the driver. After reading the 10 pence short occurrence just yesterday and then this happening today I wondered what would happen.
No mitigating circumstances except for low laying sun, dazzling the driver causing them not to see the red light or the ped. An accident although if you really can't see I suppose you arguably should pull over.
SantaBarbara said:
No witnesses equals insufficient evidence
This is a myth. If a driver has knocked someone down on a crossing while the stop light was on red, that is ample evidence from which careless driving may be inferred. The evidence of the person knocked down does not require corroboration by another witness. In the event, there was another person present. The OP (sorry, his "friend") is facing a stiff sanction as he not only ran someone over but also hit a child's buggy pushed by someone else.Being blinded by the sun is not a mitigating factor. It is potentially an aggravating factor as the driver failed to slow down or stop when blinded.
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 28th October 09:44
The legal process can be perverse.
http://www.skegnessstandard.co.uk/news/transport/j...
Driver failed to give way at a junction, kill another road user, claimed blinded by low sun, jury found not guilty,
http://www.skegnessstandard.co.uk/news/transport/j...
Driver failed to give way at a junction, kill another road user, claimed blinded by low sun, jury found not guilty,
It is impossible to say what influenced that jury. Posts on PH about dead bikers suggest that some motorists are prejudiced against two wheeled road users, and assume that the bike is always going too fast etc. Less controversially, the jurors may have been thinking "There but for the Grace of the FSM go I ".
As a middle aged biker who rides for fun and not to commute I think about weather and light conditions before I go out on the bike. I was sun-blinded while riding earlier this year and had to pull over and stop as I could see nothing, dark-tinted visor notwithstanding. I felt super at risk on the bike unsighted, whereas in a car I might have adopted the invulnerability illusion and pressed on.
As a middle aged biker who rides for fun and not to commute I think about weather and light conditions before I go out on the bike. I was sun-blinded while riding earlier this year and had to pull over and stop as I could see nothing, dark-tinted visor notwithstanding. I felt super at risk on the bike unsighted, whereas in a car I might have adopted the invulnerability illusion and pressed on.
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