Speeding ticket process
Speeding ticket process
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33q

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1,628 posts

153 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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As per my recent thread my 77 year old neighbour has received her first speeding ticket. I did feel a little sorry as it arrived on her birthday.

She is adamant she does not was to attend a SAC

She’s a bit phased by this. Some friends are jokingly saying she will be locked up and she is not finding it funny at all.

So exactly what notifications do you get etc. I’d like to ease her anxiety a little if I can.

I think she will have to inform her insurance company at least

Thanks

Ki3r

8,876 posts

189 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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What she gets depends on a number of things...firstly was she stopped at the time or was it via a camera (either fixed or mobile).

If it was fixed/mobile she'll get a Section 172 request in the post (if she is the registered keeper of the vehicle). This will ask her to declare who was driving at the time. She'll fill it in with her details and return it within the 28 days required (this is important).

If she is within the allowance she'll be offered the course. Personally I would take it, its often the same price as the fine but no points...and you learn something.

If not she will get three points and a £100 fine. I think she'll need to send her licence to someone...not sure how it works at the moment then pay the fine within a certain amount of time (it's important she complies with both parts if she needs to send her licence off).

Or she can decide to have a day in court.

If she was stopped at the time, down here she'll be given a traffic offence report (TOR) and she'll get a letter in the post explaining things.

What speed was she doing as well? That could change how things are dealt with (50 in a 30 is straight to court for example).

33q

Original Poster:

1,628 posts

153 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Thanks. Very helpful.

It was a camera van and she claims she was only just over the limit....30mph

I suspect it was about 36 from how she phrased it....

Thanks again.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

139 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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If I were her I wouldn't go on the course either
Tell her the points are a badge of honour at her age, and apart from added street cred they are unlikely to have any or only a minor effect on her insurance anyway.
She may officially be a criminal however. But only low-level. Not hardened.

Ki3r

8,876 posts

189 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Has she had any letters yet? She may not have been caught, camera op looking at the other lane, or just didn't think she was speeding. If she was caught she'll get a letter within 14 days.

martinbiz

3,702 posts

175 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Ki3r said:
Has she had any letters yet? She may not have been caught, camera op looking at the other lane, or just didn't think she was speeding. If she was caught she'll get a letter within 14 days.
"As per my recent thread my 77 year old neighbour has received her first speeding ticket."

Ki3r

8,876 posts

189 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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martinbiz said:
"As per my recent thread my 77 year old neighbour has received her first speeding ticket."
Whoops! I'm blaming being up at 5am for the last five days...

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Probably better for her to accept the SAC if it is offered.
They may otherwise question her ability to continue driving possibly.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Probably better for her to accept the SAC if it is offered.
They may otherwise question her ability to continue driving possibly.
No, they won't.

The course would still be the best bet. The courses are actually quite informative.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

139 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
No, they won't.

The course would still be the best bet. The courses are actually quite informative.
Only if you're clueless, and if we acknowledge that is an issue then why do these people have licences in the first place?

Just slow them down, that'll work.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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cmaguire said:
Only if you're clueless, and if we acknowledge that is an issue then why do these people have licences in the first place?

Just slow them down, that'll work.
Not so.
Why do say "clueless "?

cmaguire

3,589 posts

139 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Not so.
Why do say "clueless "?
Because it is all primary school nonsense.
There is really no reason anybody that has been driving for more than say a couple of years should be learning anything useful from these courses.
If they do they haven't been paying attention behind the wheel.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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No, it is NOT primary school nonsense.

33q

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1,628 posts

153 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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No doubt they should know a lot more than they do about driving and road safety.....but in the real world sadly they don't

So these courses are a good idea and many people who have attended them have found them useful

I think you have to be pretty arrogant if you think you have nothing to learn on any subject

cmaguire

3,589 posts

139 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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33q said:
No doubt they should know a lot more than they do about driving and road safety.....but in the real world sadly they don't

So these courses are a good idea and many people who have attended them have found them useful

I think you have to be pretty arrogant if you think you have nothing to learn on ANY subject
?

I doubt many with A level Chemistry are likely to have much to gain by sitting a CSE in the subject.

As to entirely different subjects, there is doubtless plenty left to learn.

Heres Johnny

8,176 posts

154 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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on the basis she passed her test some time ago she should do the course if offered. Tell her it’s much more like a friendly chat about how the laws are now, how to read the road as they’re much busier now, and there’s no test, and she may just be a bit wiser at the end.

Or she can go about life blissfully ignorant.

For her it’s nothing to do with points or higher insurance, I doubt it will make any difference either way, it’s about being a little safer and why isn’t that a good thing? Plus free tea and biscuits.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Heres Johnny said:
on the basis she passed her test some time ago she should do the course if offered. Tell her it’s much more like a friendly chat about how the laws are now, how to read the road as they’re much busier now, and there’s no test, and she may just be a bit wiser at the end.
This is certainly would I'd be telling somebody in the same boat.

Heres Johnny said:
For her it’s nothing to do with points or higher insurance, I doubt it will make any difference either way
At 77, she's getting towards higher insurance simply because of age. Start to add in points, and I can see insurers taking much more of an interest than if it was somebody a decade or two younger. Is she one of the oblivious 45mph everywhere brigade? If she's failing to pay attention to signage, what else?

mygoldfishbowl

4,285 posts

173 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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If she's anything like me she'll hate it. Not everyone likes sitting about having a friendly chat or eating free tea & biscuits which aren't actually free. I'd never do another course.

CanAm

14,037 posts

302 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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I recently completed a SAC. I went into with rather a closed mind but the two guys who ran it didn't push the Speed Kills mantra too much and to my surprise it wasn't too boring.
There were a few there who didn't know the NSL in a car or what a dual carriageway actually is. I would advise her to do the course and treat it as a bit of a refresher. You get a free copy of the latest Highway Code too. biggrin

4rephill

5,168 posts

208 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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cmaguire said:
Because it is all primary school nonsense.
There is really no reason anybody that has been driving for more than say a couple of years should be learning anything useful from these courses.
If they do they haven't been paying attention behind the wheel.
Have you actually been on one of the courses? confused