Endorsement on my old green licence
Endorsement on my old green licence
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gothatway

Original Poster:

7,616 posts

199 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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I still have one of those old-fashioned green paper licences and had to send it off a couple of weeks ago as a result of making too much progress in too short a time. When it came back, I expected to see the form on the back filled in by hand (the first endorsement on it is dated 1981 and typed, but the couple since then have been hand-written). But nothing has been added to record my misdemeanor. Is that as it should be ? How am I meant to know when the endorsement is expired - come to think of it, how do any of you with those new-fangled pastic jobbies know when offences were committed and endorsements expire ?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

246 months

gothatway

Original Poster:

7,616 posts

199 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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Thanks for that - though it won't recognise my details, so I have to call them !

Gavia

7,627 posts

120 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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It should do. Your driving licence number doesn’t change when / if you get a photo card licence, nor does your National Insuramce number, or address. See below

https://insidedvla.blog.gov.uk/2015/03/24/advice-f...

catso

16,414 posts

296 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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So if they don't write/print anything on the old-style licence any more, why does it need to be sent away?

jkh112

23,933 posts

187 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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catso said:
So if they don't write/print anything on the old-style licence any more, why does it need to be sent away?
It doesn’t.

gothatway

Original Poster:

7,616 posts

199 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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jkh112 said:
It doesn’t.
Yes it does!

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

137 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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gothatway said:
Yes it does!
Why?

gothatway

Original Poster:

7,616 posts

199 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Why?
I wish I knew, but it certainly had to be sent off. Maybe just to check the number?

jkh112

23,933 posts

187 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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When I had to send mine off recently there was a note in small print telling me not to send off the paper part. I sent off the photo card and had it returned which seems pointless.

Gavia

7,627 posts

120 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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jkh112 said:
When I had to send mine off recently there was a note in small print telling me not to send off the paper part. I sent off the photo card and had it returned which seems pointless.
The paper part is redundant now and may as well be thrown away. There is zero value in holding on to it.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

137 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Hold on to the paper part as a back up to remember your Driver number.

Gavia

7,627 posts

120 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Hold on to the paper part as a back up to remember your Driver number.
You’re like a unfunny version of Viz’s Top Tips

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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catso said:
So if they don't write/print anything on the old-style licence any more, why does it need to be sent away?
You could ask that same question about photocards - it'd be just as valid.

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

142 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Hold on to the paper part as a back up to remember your Driver number.
Also useful to prove you have a license when they accidentally put you back to provisional status as they randomly do!

and when they do screw up like that, the onus is on YOU to prove you passed the test despite test centres not keeping long term records. The DVLA have regular data archives of thier entire database so no information is lost, yet they refuse to look into an archive to see that you had a license.

Halb

53,012 posts

212 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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gothatway said:
I still have one of those old-fashioned green paper licences and had to send it off a couple of weeks ago as a result of making too much progress in too short a time. When it came back, I expected to see the form on the back filled in by hand (the first endorsement on it is dated 1981 and typed, but the couple since then have been hand-written). But nothing has been added to record my misdemeanor. Is that as it should be ? How am I meant to know when the endorsement is expired - come to think of it, how do any of you with those new-fangled pastic jobbies know when offences were committed and endorsements expire ?
YOu got your old paper licence back with no issues?

Lindun

1,965 posts

91 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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Halb said:
YOu got your old paper licence back with no issues?
18 months ago

Gary C

15,240 posts

208 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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SantaBarbara said:
Hold on to the paper part as a back up to remember your Driver number.
Think some are getting wires crossed.

The OP isnt talking about the now redundant paper part of the photo card licence but an original paper license so that really shouldnt be thrown away.

You must have lived at the same address for quite a few years OP.

Halb

53,012 posts

212 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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Lindun said:
18 months ago
Thanks.

RSTurboPaul

13,085 posts

287 months

Friday 2nd August 2019
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Psycho Warren said:
SantaBarbara said:
Hold on to the paper part as a back up to remember your Driver number.
Also useful to prove you have a license when they accidentally put you back to provisional status as they randomly do!

and when they do screw up like that, the onus is on YOU to prove you passed the test despite test centres not keeping long term records. The DVLA have regular data archives of thier entire database so no information is lost, yet they refuse to look into an archive to see that you had a license.
Am I correct in thinking that sending a paper licence away to be turned into a plastic licence means one risks losing the categories that aren't awarded to new drivers automatically now? (i.e. towing a trailer, 7.5 ton vans, etc.)

I have heard anecdotal evidence that people have been caught out driving 7.5ton vans as part of their job on the basis they always had it on their paper licence, but the DVLA removed it when they updated and they didn't tell the driver, and the driver had no way of proving it was on his paper licence so got done for the offence.