Roundabout bingle - Who is at fault.
Discussion
So... Myself and another fine motorist had a very minor bingle on a roundabout later. I'll start this off with the fact the gentleman followed me into a car park and we exchanged details, but I'm curious as to who would be at fault.
The scenario.
I was travelling around the roundabout whilst the other motorist was waiting at an entrance but his front was protruding onto the roundabout somewhat. I thought I had cleared it but his numberplate connected on my rear nearside quarter just past the wheel arch.
The damage is cosmetic but it's a 3 month old car, I've sorted a few quotes and they've come in at the £150-175 mark.
Who would be at fault and should I talk to the guy about the bill (splitting or in whole)?
The scenario.
I was travelling around the roundabout whilst the other motorist was waiting at an entrance but his front was protruding onto the roundabout somewhat. I thought I had cleared it but his numberplate connected on my rear nearside quarter just past the wheel arch.
The damage is cosmetic but it's a 3 month old car, I've sorted a few quotes and they've come in at the £150-175 mark.
Who would be at fault and should I talk to the guy about the bill (splitting or in whole)?
fastbikes76 said:
I would guess you, he was stationary although protruding slightly in your path. Still up to you to avoid driving into him though surely ?
this...general principle is that you have priority, not right of way...
you can't just drive into a car...
if he came onto the roundabout in front of you, and stopped but you didn't have sufficient time to avoid him, then he will take the majority of the fault (you are still meant to allow for other drivers who do what they shouldn't - it is in the HC)
if however he was on there from a previous aborted attempt then you were primarily at fault, you should be driving such that you can stop in the distance clear in front of you etc...
SAS Tom said:
What the f
k is this word bingle? Have you just invented it?
Where have you been hiding?k is this word bingle? Have you just invented it?The OED says it's of 1940s Australian origin.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bingl...
TooMany2cvs said:
Did he inch forward into the side of you, or did you move sideways and hit a stationary car?
Simple answer - nobody knows, so 50/50.
Here in lies the ambiguity.Simple answer - nobody knows, so 50/50.
The contact was on rear quarter of my car, which is not narrower at the front. I'm certain there was no oversteer and did not see what happened. He may have inches forward but can't say for certain.
IF you were driving around the roundabout the front of your car would be swinging out on a wider arc than the rear. It can therefore be argued that he must have inched forward to contact the rear corner of your motor.
If you'd driven into him the probability is that the front of your car would have hit his front off-side corner !
If you'd driven into him the probability is that the front of your car would have hit his front off-side corner !
Sounds like it would go 50/50. You will say he inched forward, he will say you hit him while he was stationary. Neither have conclusive proof to prove otherwise.
For the sake of £150/170 I wouldn't bother with insurance and pay myself. You will only get stung come renewal time and for the next few years...
For the sake of £150/170 I wouldn't bother with insurance and pay myself. You will only get stung come renewal time and for the next few years...
Mafffew said:
Sounds like it would go 50/50. You will say he inched forward, he will say you hit him while he was stationary. Neither have conclusive proof to prove otherwise.
For the sake of £150/170 I wouldn't bother with insurance and pay myself. You will only get stung come renewal time and for the next few years...
Not going to bother with insurance, £175 is half my volentary excess. However the other gent seemed to think that it was his fault as we exchanged details.For the sake of £150/170 I wouldn't bother with insurance and pay myself. You will only get stung come renewal time and for the next few years...
Also, I was going straight as I was exiting the roundabout so my rear wouldn't have been swinging wide (on the NS). If it were my fault, I certainly do take responsibility. Most people seem to be leaning towards 50/50.
"most" people on here would be wrong. You hit a stationary object. It cannot be anything other than your fault I'm afraid. Look at it this way. If the other car had been a bollard would you be asking if the bollard was to blame?
Unless the other car was moving then it is just the same as if you had hit a bollard. Hope that helps.
Unless the other car was moving then it is just the same as if you had hit a bollard. Hope that helps.
TooMany2cvs said:
SAS Tom said:
What the fk is this word bingle? Have you just invented it?
Where have you been hiding?k is this word bingle? Have you just invented it?The OED says it's of 1940s Australian origin.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bingl...
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