Legality of works carpark bollard
Legality of works carpark bollard
Author
Discussion

HappyMidget

Original Poster:

6,794 posts

145 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
At work we have a bollard to control access to the carpark to stop s using it. Workers from the company who we share the carpark with who installed the bollard have remotes to open it, whereas only a few employees of my company have remotes. The rest of us have to phone the bollard using our mobile phones to get the bollard open. Now in my mind this is now illegal unless you turn the ignition off and have the handbrake on which is not ideal, as previously you would call it as you came round the corner so you didn't have to wait for it to lower.

Am I right in thinking that we should now all be assigned remotes, rather than using a now potentially illegal method of entry?

t400ble

1,804 posts

151 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
Can you not just call before you set off?

WonkeyDonkey

2,588 posts

133 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
Have a hands-free device in your car with voice search?

IanJ9375

1,638 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
HappyMidget said:
At work we have a bollard to control access to the carpark to stop s using it. Workers from the company who we share the carpark with who installed the bollard have remotes to open it, whereas only a few employees of my company have remotes. The rest of us have to phone the bollard using our mobile phones to get the bollard open. Now in my mind this is now illegal unless you turn the ignition off and have the handbrake on which is not ideal, as previously you would call it as you came round the corner so you didn't have to wait for it to lower.

Am I right in thinking that we should now all be assigned remotes, rather than using a now potentially illegal method of entry?
Have you not got handsfree/bluetooth so you can call legally?

HappyMidget

Original Poster:

6,794 posts

145 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
Takes me half an hour to get to work, so not really. Bollard raises after car has passed through.

HappyMidget

Original Poster:

6,794 posts

145 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
My hands free is connected to my personal phone, not my company phone.

HappyMidget

Original Poster:

6,794 posts

145 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
Also I do use the iPhones voice dialling, but have to activate this by holding the home button. This is still illegal if I am not mistaken.

98elise

32,663 posts

191 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
HappyMidget said:
My hands free is connected to my personal phone, not my company phone.
What make is your company phone? I don't heed a hands free kit to operate my phone hands free.

Also what your describing as illegal, is your choice.

Edited by 98elise on Thursday 16th November 12:07

hyphen

26,262 posts

120 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
HappyMidget said:
The rest of us have to phone the bollard using our mobile phones to get the bollard open.
Can you not open the window and just speak to it?

The Surveyor

7,624 posts

267 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
HappyMidget said:
At work we have a bollard to control access to the carpark to stop s using it. Workers from the company who we share the carpark with who installed the bollard have remotes to open it, whereas only a few employees of my company have remotes. The rest of us have to phone the bollard using our mobile phones to get the bollard open. Now in my mind this is now illegal unless you turn the ignition off and have the handbrake on which is not ideal, as previously you would call it as you came round the corner so you didn't have to wait for it to lower.

Am I right in thinking that we should now all be assigned remotes, rather than using a now potentially illegal method of entry?
Your beef is that you don't have a remote, where as other in your company do.

No law has been broken by the company, just use a hands-free phone (like I'm sure everybody else does) or speak to HR and get a remote. Simple.

HappyMidget

Original Poster:

6,794 posts

145 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
hyphen said:
Can you not open the window and just speak to it?
No, I get to work before the support team are in to answer.

98elise said:
What make is your company phone? I don't heed a hands free kit to operate my phone hands free.
iPhone, I use the voice dialling by pressing the home button, but interacting with the phone in this manner is still illegal

The Surveyor said:
Your beef is that you don't have a remote, where as other in your company do.

No law has been broken by the company, just use a hands-free phone (like I'm sure everybody else does) or speak to HR and get a remote. Simple.
Not at all, been fine with it for the year or so I have been here, the legality just occurred to me the other day and thought I would ask about it

loafer123

16,737 posts

245 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all

This will be governed by the lease under which you have rights to use the car park - refer it to the landlord.

HappyMidget

Original Poster:

6,794 posts

145 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
loafer123 said:
This will be governed by the lease under which you have rights to use the car park - refer it to the landlord.
That is the other company I mentioned. They refuse to give us any more remotes for some weird reason. Dunno why they didn't just install number plate recognition to start with tbh.

loafer123

16,737 posts

245 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
HappyMidget said:
loafer123 said:
This will be governed by the lease under which you have rights to use the car park - refer it to the landlord.
That is the other company I mentioned. They refuse to give us any more remotes for some weird reason. Dunno why they didn't just install number plate recognition to start with tbh.
You can still use the lease to enforce practical access. They have signed into a legal contract.

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
Buy a windscreen mount for a £1 from poundland, put phone in holder, call from holder as your approach gate.

Is this really a problem?

mp3manager

4,254 posts

226 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
It is if it's mounted within the wiper sweep, which is illegal. Plus it makes you look like an Uber driver, which is much, much worse a crime.

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

206 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
But your the one making it illegal as you can stop the car, engine off, ect to make the call. No one is forcing you to drive and use a phone.

hyphen

26,262 posts

120 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
HappyMidget said:
hyphen said:
HappyMidget said:
The rest of us have to phone the bollard using our mobile phones to get the bollard open.
Can you not open the window and just speak to it?
No, I get to work before the support team are in to answer.
Nevermind...

Pumpkinz

119 posts

108 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
mp3manager said:
It is if it's mounted within the wiper sweep, which is illegal. Plus it makes you look like an Uber driver, which is much, much worse a crime.
Use a dash mat instead... It might then be slightly obscuring the wiper sweep, but as it isn't screen mounted, I assume it wouldn't fall foul of legislation.

SmoothCriminal

5,950 posts

229 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
quotequote all
Connect your work phone to your car's hands free.

Seriously threads on pistonheads these days....