47 in a 30, what punishment.
47 in a 30, what punishment.
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

Original Poster:

13,240 posts

129 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Not me, but a friends wife. After research she is convinced that she'll be due 6 points, and apparently now she believes a fine of a weeks wage. I've not heard that one before.

I think more likely she'll be looking at 4 points. Anyone any thoughts?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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She's above tea-and-biscuits, but still in the FP region, going by the table that usually gets posted.


SS2.

14,709 posts

267 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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3 points & £100.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

147 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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It will be a Band B fine

Disqualification 7 to 28 days OR 4 to 6 points
Fine Band B Starting - 100% of weekly income Range - 75 - 125% of weekly income


Pica-Pica

16,566 posts

113 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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47 in a 30 will not just be a slap on the wrist, and a few points.

SS2.

14,709 posts

267 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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xjay1337 said:
It will be a Band B fine

Disqualification 7 to 28 days OR 4 to 6 points
Fine Band B Starting - 100% of weekly income Range - 75 - 125% of weekly income
Why won't a FPN be offered ?

giantdefy

700 posts

142 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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xjay1337 said:
It will be a Band B fine

Disqualification 7 to 28 days OR 4 to 6 points
Fine Band B Starting - 100% of weekly income Range - 75 - 125% of weekly income
No it won't a £100/3 point FPN will almost certainly be offered.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

147 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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SS2. said:
Why won't a FPN be offered ?
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item/speeding-revised-2017/

SS2.

14,709 posts

267 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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xjay1337 said:
SS2. said:
Why won't a FPN be offered ?
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item/speeding-revised-2017/
I'm not sure you understand how the Fixed Penalty system works - they can be offered for upto 49mph in a 30mph limit.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

Original Poster:

13,240 posts

129 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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SS2. said:
xjay1337 said:
SS2. said:
Why won't a FPN be offered ?
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item/speeding-revised-2017/
I'm not sure you understand how the Fixed Penalty system works - they can be offered for upto 49mph in a 30mph limit.
What I could gather backs that up, IE 50 mph and it's Magistrates time.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,006 posts

264 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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scratchchin I wonder how the fine regime works if you have £0 weekly income?

captainaverage

596 posts

116 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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xjay1337 said:
It will be a Band B fine

Disqualification 7 to 28 days OR 4 to 6 points
Fine Band B Starting - 100% of weekly income Range - 75 - 125% of weekly income
Only if case goes to court. Most likely to happen if contested I believe otherwise unlikely to happen.

craigjm

21,436 posts

229 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
scratchchin I wonder how the fine regime works if you have £0 weekly income?
Well you can either say you have an income of zero which they will take as unreliable and proceed on £440 per week or you can be honest and if you really are on virtually nothing a figure of £120 a week is used. If there are grounds to believe you earn more than £440 a week they will come up with a figure over that which they believe is appropriate and you would have to appeal and provide evidence.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Doesn’t it depend on which police force is involved?

48 in a 30 got me three points and £100 (I think it was £100; certainly not more) courtesy of the Met.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,006 posts

264 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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craigjm said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
scratchchin I wonder how the fine regime works if you have £0 weekly income?
Well you can either say you have an income of zero which they will take as unreliable and proceed on £440 per week or you can be honest and if you really are on virtually nothing a figure of £120 a week is used. If there are grounds to believe you earn more than £440 a week they will come up with a figure over that which they believe is appropriate and you would have to appeal and provide evidence.
I am on £0 per week, which made me wonder.

craigjm

21,436 posts

229 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
craigjm said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
scratchchin I wonder how the fine regime works if you have £0 weekly income?
Well you can either say you have an income of zero which they will take as unreliable and proceed on £440 per week or you can be honest and if you really are on virtually nothing a figure of £120 a week is used. If there are grounds to believe you earn more than £440 a week they will come up with a figure over that which they believe is appropriate and you would have to appeal and provide evidence.
I am on £0 per week, which made me wonder.
They wouldnt believe you. They would look at all of your income streams (pensions, savings interest etc) and even if you were a "kept man" then would come up with a figure appropriate to your lifestyle.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,006 posts

264 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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craigjm said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
craigjm said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
scratchchin I wonder how the fine regime works if you have £0 weekly income?
Well you can either say you have an income of zero which they will take as unreliable and proceed on £440 per week or you can be honest and if you really are on virtually nothing a figure of £120 a week is used. If there are grounds to believe you earn more than £440 a week they will come up with a figure over that which they believe is appropriate and you would have to appeal and provide evidence.
I am on £0 per week, which made me wonder.
They wouldnt believe you. They would look at all of your income streams (pensions, savings interest etc) and even if you were a "kept man" then would come up with a figure appropriate to your lifestyle.
That would be an interesting calculation hehe (as I genuinely have £0 income)

craigjm

21,436 posts

229 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
That would be an interesting calculation hehe (as I genuinely have £0 income)
without wishing to derail the thread then how do you pay your bills and feed yourself?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,006 posts

264 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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craigjm said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
That would be an interesting calculation hehe (as I genuinely have £0 income)
without wishing to derail the thread then how do you pay your bills and feed yourself?
No income, just savings

craigjm

21,436 posts

229 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
No income, just savings
In which case then they would look at your savings and make an assumption based on that. In the past this has been as high as your total savings being equivalent to a years salary so 52k in the bank = bag of sand a week potential salary and fine based on that. If you ever end up in the situation you would have to appeal whatever they set.