Parking ticket help...
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Hi
Anyone got good experience on the parking ticket front ?
I parked at my local train station like I always do and have a valid monthly ticket – got back to the car last night to find a penalty on it. Wasn’t that bothered as knew I had a valid ticket so just drove home. When at home I opened the ticket to find that the penalty related to ‘parking in a restricted area’ – seemed odd to me as I had parked in this space before and never had issues and I knew it wasn’t disabled or anything.
Anyway, back at the station this morning and noticed these signs applied on the fencing behind the spaces. I don’t know when they went up, not saying they weren’t there yesterday morning but I would of thought it would have noticed them if they were. Anyone think I have a chance if I appeal ? Am thinking of asking for evidence of when the signs were installed but also is there some kind of formal sign requirements ? Surely a simple laminated A4 sheet can’t be sufficient for a penalty ticket ?!
Thanks all
Anyone got good experience on the parking ticket front ?
I parked at my local train station like I always do and have a valid monthly ticket – got back to the car last night to find a penalty on it. Wasn’t that bothered as knew I had a valid ticket so just drove home. When at home I opened the ticket to find that the penalty related to ‘parking in a restricted area’ – seemed odd to me as I had parked in this space before and never had issues and I knew it wasn’t disabled or anything.
Anyway, back at the station this morning and noticed these signs applied on the fencing behind the spaces. I don’t know when they went up, not saying they weren’t there yesterday morning but I would of thought it would have noticed them if they were. Anyone think I have a chance if I appeal ? Am thinking of asking for evidence of when the signs were installed but also is there some kind of formal sign requirements ? Surely a simple laminated A4 sheet can’t be sufficient for a penalty ticket ?!
Thanks all
rooney1000 said:
Hi
Anyone got good experience on the parking ticket front ?
I parked at my local train station like I always do and have a valid monthly ticket – got back to the car last night to find a penalty on it. Wasn’t that bothered as knew I had a valid ticket so just drove home. When at home I opened the ticket to find that the penalty related to ‘parking in a restricted area’ – seemed odd to me as I had parked in this space before and never had issues and I knew it wasn’t disabled or anything.
Anyway, back at the station this morning and noticed these signs applied on the fencing behind the spaces. I don’t know when they went up, not saying they weren’t there yesterday morning but I would of thought it would have noticed them if they were. Anyone think I have a chance if I appeal ? Am thinking of asking for evidence of when the signs were installed but also is there some kind of formal sign requirements ? Surely a simple laminated A4 sheet can’t be sufficient for a penalty ticket ?!
Thanks all
#Anyone got good experience on the parking ticket front ?
I parked at my local train station like I always do and have a valid monthly ticket – got back to the car last night to find a penalty on it. Wasn’t that bothered as knew I had a valid ticket so just drove home. When at home I opened the ticket to find that the penalty related to ‘parking in a restricted area’ – seemed odd to me as I had parked in this space before and never had issues and I knew it wasn’t disabled or anything.
Anyway, back at the station this morning and noticed these signs applied on the fencing behind the spaces. I don’t know when they went up, not saying they weren’t there yesterday morning but I would of thought it would have noticed them if they were. Anyone think I have a chance if I appeal ? Am thinking of asking for evidence of when the signs were installed but also is there some kind of formal sign requirements ? Surely a simple laminated A4 sheet can’t be sufficient for a penalty ticket ?!
Thanks all
Trowbridge Train station?
Ticket from?
Signage at the car park states?
If this is a car park governed by byelaws then it could be argued to be a byelaw (criminal) offence as long as a court were satisfied that it was obvious that the restriction was put in place by the Train Operating Company responsible for teh station.
Any chance on appeal, well if, as I suspect, its a private parking company ticket, then none at all, their only interest is in taking your money, not whether they have any legal right to it.
Private parking companies are adverse to taking their tickets to civil courts in case they get a major ruling against them, and won't take it to criminal court as their is no money in it.
Signage at the car park states?
If this is a car park governed by byelaws then it could be argued to be a byelaw (criminal) offence as long as a court were satisfied that it was obvious that the restriction was put in place by the Train Operating Company responsible for teh station.
Any chance on appeal, well if, as I suspect, its a private parking company ticket, then none at all, their only interest is in taking your money, not whether they have any legal right to it.
Private parking companies are adverse to taking their tickets to civil courts in case they get a major ruling against them, and won't take it to criminal court as their is no money in it.
The Rookie said:
Ticket from?
Signage at the car park states?
If this is a car park governed by byelaws then it could be argued to be a byelaw (criminal) offence as long as a court were satisfied that it was obvious that the restriction was put in place by the Train Operating Company responsible for teh station.
Any chance on appeal, well if, as I suspect, its a private parking company ticket, then none at all, their only interest is in taking your money, not whether they have any legal right to it.
Private parking companies are adverse to taking their tickets to civil courts in case they get a major ruling against them, and won't take it to criminal court as their is no money in it.
If you insist on relating pepipoo stuff on here, at least try to use the correct word. It’s averse, not adverse. Signage at the car park states?
If this is a car park governed by byelaws then it could be argued to be a byelaw (criminal) offence as long as a court were satisfied that it was obvious that the restriction was put in place by the Train Operating Company responsible for teh station.
Any chance on appeal, well if, as I suspect, its a private parking company ticket, then none at all, their only interest is in taking your money, not whether they have any legal right to it.
Private parking companies are adverse to taking their tickets to civil courts in case they get a major ruling against them, and won't take it to criminal court as their is no money in it.
Very quickly, if you have committed a byelaw offence then NCP are not able to do anything about it since the TOC are the only ones who can take action.
They have 6 months to take you to court so play letter ping pong with the operator to time out the chance of magistrates. Also I think that POPLA ruled they would not hear appeals for byelaw offences so after 6 months there is very little NCP can do
They have 6 months to take you to court so play letter ping pong with the operator to time out the chance of magistrates. Also I think that POPLA ruled they would not hear appeals for byelaw offences so after 6 months there is very little NCP can do
hutchst said:
herewego said:
Is it a staffed station? I'd ask them what that's about.
I would hazard a guess that it is a staffed station. I would also hazard a guess that I could make a reasonable stab at the registration numbers of the cars driven by the staff members.pavarotti1980 said:
Very quickly, if you have committed a byelaw offence then NCP are not able to do anything about it since the TOC are the only ones who can take action.
They have 6 months to take you to court so play letter ping pong with the operator to time out the chance of magistrates. Also I think that POPLA ruled they would not hear appeals for byelaw offences so after 6 months there is very little NCP can do
This...They have 6 months to take you to court so play letter ping pong with the operator to time out the chance of magistrates. Also I think that POPLA ruled they would not hear appeals for byelaw offences so after 6 months there is very little NCP can do
Railway land is covered under bye-laws, and does not come under the scope of POFA 2012, therefore the keeper can not be held liable "It's not relevant land" in parking speak...
Only a magistrate can enforce the breach, and they will not go to a civil court, no matter what the private parking companies may tell you. And only the Train Operating Company can start the legal action, not NCP/Indigo etc. The charge has to be brought within 6 months, and I'm not entirley convinced that the TOCs know how to do this.
The other point to note is that the "owner" is liable - to drag out the 6 months, get into a letter discussion with them on the definition of "owner", and remind them that the V5 document clearly states that it does not prove ownership. If the vehicle is financed in any way, the chances are you are not the "owner".
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