The car was dumped, surely?
The car was dumped, surely?
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M666 EVO

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1,129 posts

192 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Parking outside our house is on the pavement, then failing that its in the road. Either way its not private or permit.

So I come home one night and notice a small car with a smashed passenger side window, parked out side our house on the pavement. Initially I think the poor sole has had something stolen. A week later, the car is still there. Window still broken.

Another week later, car is still parked and still sans window. I then check the MOT/Tax online and it doesn't have either and hasn't since August 2017. Neighbours all deny ownership so I report it to the council.

2 weeks later some cones appear around the car. That night they are gone, car is still there missing the window. Finally (after a chaser to the council) and after 6 weeks, the car is gone.

But, weirdly the council mailed me to say that when the officer came round to investigate there was no car. So all I can assume is either the pavement is private property or you don't actually need an MOT or road tax.

Or they took the car but this guy from the council doesn't have a clue what's going on.

InitialDave

15,123 posts

149 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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M666 EVO said:
Initially I think the poor sole has had something stolen.
I agree, seems fishy.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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M666 EVO said:
But, weirdly the council mailed me to say that when the officer came round to investigate there was no car. So all I can assume is either the pavement is private property or you don't actually need an MOT or road tax.
How do you get from "there was no car" to "there was a car, but they didn't see a problem"?

More likely is that the guy went to the wrong place, so didn't see the car.

Monkeylegend

29,309 posts

261 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Car is now gone, nothing more to say really, a bit of a non event confused

But I am sure this will stretch to a few pages of arguments yet hehe

M666 EVO

Original Poster:

1,129 posts

192 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Monkeylegend said:
Car is now gone, nothing more to say really, a bit of a non event confused
Well, yeah.

But I was surprised the guy from the council mailed to say they didn't think it was dumped just because by the time they got there it had gone. How many people would leave a car untaxed with no MOT and no tax with a smashed window on the road for 6 weeks?

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Did the council remove it or not?

If not and the car went, then it either wasn't dumped and had an owner who collected it, or it was stolen.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

230 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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M666 EVO said:
guy from the council doesn't have a clue what's going on.
...Is the correct answer.

ShampooEfficient

4,278 posts

241 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Was it a Zafira?

Any sightings of RAC recovery trucks in the area?

paintman

7,860 posts

220 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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ShampooEfficient said:
Was it a Zafira?

Any sightings of RAC recovery trucks in the area?
laugh

xjay1337

15,966 posts

148 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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It would not surprise me if the vehicle was collected but the council internal communication policy meant that someone went out twice.

Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

180 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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I love the way you keep pointing out "still no window". Were you expecting it to grow back? Sure it wasn't just wound down? Or someone who dumped a non-insured non-taxed car was maybe going to pop back and replace it so it wasn't quite so much to the detriment of the local area?

So many questions need to be answered hehe

nadger

1,413 posts

170 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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ShampooEfficient said:
Was it a Zafira?

Any sightings of fire engines in the area?
Fixed that for you!

sim16v

2,177 posts

231 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Maybe the council didn't move it.

Do you get scrap men around the area?

They could have just nicked it and weighed it in.

KungFuPanda

4,641 posts

200 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Car come and go on my street all the time.

M666 EVO

Original Poster:

1,129 posts

192 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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Nik da Greek said:
I love the way you keep pointing out "still no window". Were you expecting it to grow back? Sure it wasn't just wound down? Or someone who dumped a non-insured non-taxed car was maybe going to pop back and replace it so it wasn't quite so much to the detriment of the local area?

So many questions need to be answered hehe
I did state that it was smashed, so I didn't expect it to grow back. I did however expect someone to maybe secure the window within 6 weeks of leaving it on the pavement. I would have covered it and got it fixed in a few days.

And unfortunately I believe a non taxed, non MOT'd and non insured car IS a detriment to the local area. Partly because I have to pay all 3 (as we all do) plus I have only lived there a few months so it was a bit of a shock to see a dumped car outside my house within weeks eek

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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M666 EVO said:
And unfortunately I believe a non taxed, non MOT'd and non insured car IS a detriment to the local area.
Would it be any different if the exact same car, in the exact same condition had been left parked in the same place for the same time... but had that paperwork in place?

M666 EVO

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1,129 posts

192 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
M666 EVO said:
And unfortunately I believe a non taxed, non MOT'd and non insured car IS a detriment to the local area.
Would it be any different if the exact same car, in the exact same condition had been left parked in the same place for the same time... but had that paperwork in place?
I think a car parked on a pavement for 6 weeks with smashed window (with all the shattered glass on the seat, around the bottom of the door) is a detriment to an area, regardless of paperwork, yes. Not only is it dangerous but it also looks a bit st, no?

The only plus if it does have paperwork is you hope that at some stage, if someone is paying for road tax and upkeep, they'll at some stage come back and repair the window. If its states online that it has no MOT or Tax, I am not 100% confident that someone is that bothered about the vehicle.



Byker28i

92,027 posts

247 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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We had a car dumped near us for over 8 months. Mot expired but the tax was valid when first reported so the council would do nothing. After the tax expired it was reported again, by which time it was covered in green slime. It was then reported every month until eventually after 6 months the council took it away.

Knowing the council it probably took them that long to have the requisite number of meetings about it before action could be taken

OldGermanHeaps

5,151 posts

208 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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InitialDave said:
M666 EVO said:
Initially I think the poor sole has had something stolen.
I agree, seems fishy.
Was it parked in a suspicious plaice?

DT398

1,947 posts

178 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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OldGermanHeaps said:
Was it parked in a suspicious plaice?
It was and it seems nobody haddock loo what was going on......