HETO car with speed cam symbol on side?!
HETO car with speed cam symbol on side?!
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sonnenschein3000

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733 posts

120 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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Hi all.

I was going up the M69 this morning (heading towards Leicester, i.e. away from Coventry) and I noticed a highways agency Mitsubishi 4x4 in the hard shoulder, and he had his roof bar lights switched on flashing yellow and red. My GPS speed camera alert beeping thing in my car told me that its a mobile camera site, but I thought nothing of it because from what I've read before, HETOs cannot issue speeding tickets.

However, as I passed it (bear in mind that this is a motorway and I'm travelling at motorway speeds), If my eyes were not mistaken, I saw a speed camera symbol decal on the side of the 4x4 towards the rear, just rearwards of the fuel cap. There was a man in high vis. sitting in the drivers seat.

I then had a look on google for pictures of HETO Mitsubishi 4x4s and none of them on there seem to have that particular decal on them.

Does anyone know if the rules have changed, i.e. if HETO are now able to enforce speed? Or is there a camera system on board for other purposes, e.g. recording of something else?

It was the stretch of the M69 that is within Warwickshire Police's jurisdiction.

Flibbertygibbet

29 posts

195 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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They are all being fitted with front and rear cameras for recording rolling block breaches etc - the stickers just say “cctv in operation” and have a picture of a camera that is similar in design to the speed camera warning ones.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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Or was it VOSA, they are often camera equipped (not for speed detection) & have same colour battenburg.

sonnenschein3000

Original Poster:

733 posts

120 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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I'm sure it was highways england as it had "TRAFFIC OFFICER" written at the rear

sonnenschein3000

Original Poster:

733 posts

120 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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Flibbertygibbet said:
They are all being fitted with front and rear cameras for recording rolling block breaches etc - the stickers just say “cctv in operation” and have a picture of a camera that is similar in design to the speed camera warning ones.
I've just had a look on google and I eventually managed to find a photo and you're correct, it seems that I didn't see the writing just underneath the symbol!

BossHogg

7,528 posts

208 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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As flib has stated - all our cars are fitted with front and rear facing CCTV cameras for the purpose of providing evidence for any incident the patrol car is involved with. We have the facility to "tag" the footage for downloading when it is requested.

revvingit

444 posts

110 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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There was a plan a while ago to allow HETOs to prosecute motoring offenders? Has there been any update on that, this certainly seems a first step of the slippery slope.

BossHogg

7,528 posts

208 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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There are no plans in the pipeline at all for us to have enforcement powers. It may change if we get absorbed into the proposed infrastructure constabulary, however that is on hold for the time being.

revvingit

444 posts

110 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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BossHogg said:
There are no plans in the pipeline at all for us to have enforcement powers. It may change if we get absorbed into the proposed infrastructure constabulary, however that is on hold for the time being.
Good to hear. I was referring to a year old news story if you're wondering where it came from;

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/traffic-wombles...

BossHogg

7,528 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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I did read that, there is no way our bosses would have us doing enforcement, it takes us away from what we are trained to do.

BertBert

21,273 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Although quite happy to dress the cars in pretend police garb and have pretend speed camera stickers on biggrin

BossHogg

7,528 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Err it's hi-vis battenberg that police, fire, ambo, network rail, DVSA, umpteen recovery companies, traffic safety officers and a raft of other companies use. Plus it's a legal sign clearly advising other road users that the car is fitted with CCTV, the very same sign that is displayed on public transport, so I don't know what your problem is?

BossHogg

7,528 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Mods, can this thread get merged with the ask a traffic officer thread?

BertBert

21,273 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Not feeling at all defensive then are we?

BossHogg said:
Err it's hi-vis battenberg that police, fire, ambo, network rail, DVSA, umpteen recovery companies, traffic safety officers and a raft of other companies use. Plus it's a legal sign clearly advising other road users that the car is fitted with CCTV, the very same sign that is displayed on public transport, so I don't know what your problem is?

BossHogg

7,528 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Not at all, which is why I'm looking for another job. tongue out

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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BertBert said:
Although quite happy to dress the cars in pretend police garb and have pretend speed camera stickers on biggrin
If you can't work out the difference between a HETO vehicle and Police you need your eyes tested.

MrBarry123

6,108 posts

151 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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HantsRat said:
If you can't work out the difference between a HETO vehicle and Police you need your eyes tested.
Quite.

BertBert

21,273 posts

241 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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Really ratty? That old one.
ETA: if they are that distinctive, why do they get a great bubble of cars around them as they drive around and why did the op think they might be moving camera vans?

And before you even bother, yes I can.

Edited by BertBert on Thursday 8th February 12:19

The Surveyor

7,624 posts

267 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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BertBert said:
Really ratty? That old one.
ETA: if they are that distinctive, why do they get a great bubble of cars around them as they drive around and why did the op think they might be moving camera vans?

And before you even bother, yes I can.

Edited by BertBert on Thursday 8th February 12:19
Because people are stupid and think they will be done for speeding if they pass at more than 60mph.

As above, they need to be visible when tending an incident, and are as different to Police cars (yellow and blue), as ambulances (yellow and green), and fire service vehicles (yellow and red). As before, I think most people can spot the difference between yellow and black, and yellow and blue.

Greendubber

15,319 posts

233 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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BertBert said:
Really ratty? That old one.
ETA: if they are that distinctive, why do they get a great bubble of cars around them as they drive around and why did the op think they might be moving camera vans?

And before you even bother, yes I can.

Edited by BertBert on Thursday 8th February 12:19
Because people are stupid.