New driving licence holders banned from EU?
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I heard on the radio that people who get their full driving licence after 2018 will not be allowed to drive in EU countries. The new licences will no longer have the EU flag and will have the Union Jack instead.
However if you already have a full valid U.K. licence ( pink photcard with EU flag) then there is nothing to worry about as you will always be allowed to drive in Europe after Brexit as you always have due to Grandfather rights
However if you already have a full valid U.K. licence ( pink photcard with EU flag) then there is nothing to worry about as you will always be allowed to drive in Europe after Brexit as you always have due to Grandfather rights
I didn't hear the broadcast but I'm sure the first part is true. But only if you emigrate to live permanently in an EU country. It's not going to make the slightest bit of difference to anybody else that pops over on business or holiday. Except that it might stop the recent access to DVLA registered keeper info for foreign tickets.
If you're emigrating then swapping your licence over at the local office anytime in the first 12 months will be the least of your problems. And having a foreign licence when you're back visiting the UK might have some advantages. I have 3 valid driving licences at the moment.
If you're emigrating then swapping your licence over at the local office anytime in the first 12 months will be the least of your problems. And having a foreign licence when you're back visiting the UK might have some advantages. I have 3 valid driving licences at the moment.
A quick google points to a story in the Express citing a story in the Telegraph which I can't find quoting a report of presentation slides from the European Commission
The presentation is titled: “Consequences of the UK becoming a third country in the road transport sector.”
It states it could mean the “end of mutual recognition of driving licences, vehicle registration documents and certificates of professional competence for drivers”.
The Express must have lost touch with the Met Office so needed a different kind of scaremongering than their usual extreme weather pony.
The presentation is titled: “Consequences of the UK becoming a third country in the road transport sector.”
It states it could mean the “end of mutual recognition of driving licences, vehicle registration documents and certificates of professional competence for drivers”.
The Express must have lost touch with the Met Office so needed a different kind of scaremongering than their usual extreme weather pony.
Routemaster93 said:
I heard on the radio that people who get their full driving licence after 2018 will not be allowed to drive in EU countries. The new licences will no longer have the EU flag and will have the Union Jack instead.
However if you already have a full valid U.K. licence ( pink photcard with EU flag) then there is nothing to worry about as you will always be allowed to drive in Europe after Brexit as you always have due to Grandfather rights
I don't know how old you are but there was life before the EU, and yes we used to drive on mainland European roads. However if you already have a full valid U.K. licence ( pink photcard with EU flag) then there is nothing to worry about as you will always be allowed to drive in Europe after Brexit as you always have due to Grandfather rights
Pothole said:
A quick google points to a story in the Express citing a story in the Telegraph which I can't find quoting a report of presentation slides from the European Commission
The presentation is titled: “Consequences of the UK becoming a third country in the road transport sector.”
It states it could mean the “end of mutual recognition of driving licences, vehicle registration documents and certificates of professional competence for drivers”.
The Express must have lost touch with the Met Office so needed a different kind of scaremongering than their usual extreme weather pony.
Agreed... The change would be for individual countries recognising the licence as they do now for non EU countries. The presentation is titled: “Consequences of the UK becoming a third country in the road transport sector.”
It states it could mean the “end of mutual recognition of driving licences, vehicle registration documents and certificates of professional competence for drivers”.
The Express must have lost touch with the Met Office so needed a different kind of scaremongering than their usual extreme weather pony.
Pothole said:
A quick google points to a story in the Express citing a story in the Telegraph which I can't find quoting a report of presentation slides from the European Commission
So Chinese Whispers through a double filter of scaremongering Euroscepticism.Even the most gullible and JRMiest of Farridge-believers surely couldn't seriously believe that an IDP is going to have to be obtained for a daytrip to Calais...?
Before we were an EU member we would have had an agreement that covered mutual recognition of driver licensing.
Then we became a member and the EU treaties covered that- along with much else.
When we leave we will need to negotiate a fresh treaty that covers mutual recognition of driving licences- which I am sure will be straightforward. Question is what degree of priority that will have, as to when it is agreed.
More of a concern is losing the ability to approve things like cars here- as we lose “CE” certifying rights, so all cars made here for the EU market will need to be approved in an EU country.
Then we became a member and the EU treaties covered that- along with much else.
When we leave we will need to negotiate a fresh treaty that covers mutual recognition of driving licences- which I am sure will be straightforward. Question is what degree of priority that will have, as to when it is agreed.
More of a concern is losing the ability to approve things like cars here- as we lose “CE” certifying rights, so all cars made here for the EU market will need to be approved in an EU country.
Dammit said:
Before we were an EU member we would have had an agreement that covered mutual recognition of driver licensing.
Then we became a member and the EU treaties covered that- along with much else.
When we leave we will need to negotiate a fresh treaty that covers mutual recognition of driving licences- which I am sure will be straightforward. Question is what degree of priority that will have, as to when it is agreed.
More of a concern is losing the ability to approve things like cars here- as we lose “CE” certifying rights, so all cars made here for the EU market will need to be approved in an EU country.
What, like your C class Merc parked outside (and everybody else's too) that was made in South Africa? And, coincidentally despite the utter rubbish you read in the press, imported into the EU without any tariffs whatsoever. Just one example, there are many others.Then we became a member and the EU treaties covered that- along with much else.
When we leave we will need to negotiate a fresh treaty that covers mutual recognition of driving licences- which I am sure will be straightforward. Question is what degree of priority that will have, as to when it is agreed.
More of a concern is losing the ability to approve things like cars here- as we lose “CE” certifying rights, so all cars made here for the EU market will need to be approved in an EU country.
hutchst said:
What, like your C class Merc parked outside (and everybody else's too) that was made in South Africa?
EU market C-classes are built in Bremen.hutchst said:
And, coincidentally despite the utter rubbish you read in the press, imported into the EU without any tariffs whatsoever.
Nope, 10% duty is definitely paid on new cars manufactured outside the customs union, and used cars that have never been registered inside.http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2015/january...
https://mycarimport.co.uk/import-process/import-ta...
I'm afraid that's nonsense.
Go on, have a read. You'll learn something.
TooMany2cvs said:
EU market C-classes are built in Bremen
Maybe so, but those ones all have the steering wheel on the wrong side. RHD models for worldwide markets are made at MB plant in East London (Except I think the AWD models. Those are all made in Germany but there are very few of those). So unless you drive a rhd model it was made in South Africa. If you still dont believe me decode the VIN.TooMany2cvs said:
Nope, 10% duty is definitely paid on new cars manufactured outside the customs union, and used cars that have never been registered inside.
http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2015/january...
https://mycarimport.co.uk/import-process/import-ta...
You forgot to read the Trade and Development Cooperation Agreement between the EU and South Africa, originally signed in 2000 and updated a few times since. It deals with the customs free arrangements between the EU and South Africa, including vehicles manufactured in S.A. but not the other way round, to protect the S.A. motor industry.http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2015/january...
https://mycarimport.co.uk/import-process/import-ta...
Go on, have a read. You'll learn something.
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