Do smart motorways mean end of mobile speed enforcement?

[captainaverage]

So I reckon since most if not all motorways will become smart I.e littered with automated speed cameras. Do you think there will still be any mobile speed camera vans one might see? I haven't seen any in smart motorways yet.

[mygoldfishbowl]

No, to answer the thread title.

Yes, to answer your question and not only with camera vans.

[TooMany2cvs]

This might have escaped your notice, but not all roads are motorways.

[captainaverage]

TooMany2cvs said:

This might have escaped your notice, but not all roads are motorways.

This might've escaped your eyes but I only mentioned motorways

it's okay it's just old age.

[Riley Blue]

captainaverage said:

TooMany2cvs said:

This might have escaped your notice, but not all roads are motorways.

This might've escaped your eyes but I only mentioned motorways

it's okay it's just old age.

Mobile speed enforcement takes place on roads other than motorways. Whether you mentioned that or not is irrelevant; smart motorways won't end it.

[captainaverage]

I was only talking about mobile speed camera vans on motorways and motorways only. No other roads than motorways. Motorways with smart motorway sections.

Hope that's clearer

[Wacky Racer]

I love PH sometimes.......

[mygoldfishbowl]

captainaverage said:

I was only talking about mobile speed camera vans on motorways and motorways only. No other roads than motorways. Motorways with smart motorway sections.

Hope that's clearer

Thinking that's what you meant my answer referred to motorways.

[Riley Blue]

captainaverage said:

I was only talking about mobile speed camera vans on motorways and motorways only. No other roads than motorways. Motorways with smart motorway sections.

Hope that's clearer

Much, thank you. The answer's still 'no'.

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

I have only ever seen 1 speed camera van on any motorway ever. Are they really an issue?

[ghe13rte]

Do smart motorways mean end of mobile speed enforcement?

No.

[jith]

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

I have only ever seen 1 speed camera van on any motorway ever. Are they really an issue?

Please tell me you're joking!

They are everywhere on all motorways. The worst excess of them I have seen is the Border regions, southern stretch of the M74, Northern section of the M6 on a daily basis. And now reporting at even lower speeds.

The worst form of entrapment in the whole enforcement industry.

J

[Steve H]

We have plenty of camera van enforcement in Staffordshire but virtually zero of it on motorways; I don't remember seeing one round here and as I've had no NIP's I assume I haven't missed spotting any .

[ghe13rte]

jith said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

I have only ever seen 1 speed camera van on any motorway ever. Are they really an issue?

Please tell me you're joking!

They are everywhere on all motorways. The worst excess of them I have seen is the Border regions, southern stretch of the M74, Northern section of the M6 on a daily basis. And now reporting at even lower speeds.

The worst form of entrapment in the whole enforcement industry.

J

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[Steve H]

Steve H said:

We have plenty of camera van enforcement in Staffordshire but virtually zero of it on motorways; I don't remember seeing one round here and as I've had no NIP's I assume I haven't missed spotting any .

Well it had to happen, M6 J15-14 today, van on bridge!

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

jith said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

I have only ever seen 1 speed camera van on any motorway ever. Are they really an issue?

Please tell me you're joking!

They are everywhere on all motorways. The worst excess of them I have seen is the Border regions, southern stretch of the M74, Northern section of the M6 on a daily basis. And now reporting at even lower speeds.

The worst form of entrapment in the whole enforcement industry.

J

Seriously! Once, years ago, in Cumbria. I mainly use the M1 and M25, and haven't ever clocked one.

[Cooperman]

Obviously if there are average speed cameras on a road there cannot also be mobile cash-camera vans. You can only be prosecuted one for a single offence.
The vans will simply move elsewhere.

[xjay1337]

Cooperman said:

Obviously if there are average speed cameras on a road there cannot also be mobile cash-camera vans. You can only be prosecuted one for a single offence.
The vans will simply move elsewhere.

But if it's 300 yards away then it's not the same single offence

[4rephill]

xjay1337 said:

Cooperman said:

Obviously if there are average speed cameras on a road there cannot also be mobile cash-camera vans. You can only be prosecuted one for a single offence.
The vans will simply move elsewhere.

But if it's 300 yards away then it's not the same single offence

300 yards further own the same stretch of road would be a continuation of the same offence, so it would be a single offence.

An unrealistic example, but think about it:

there were 4 cameras on the same stretch of road spaced 300 yards apart (so a total of 900 yards overall), and you broke the speed limit past all 4 cameras, would you really expect to be prosecuted for 4 offences over such a short distance, and end up being banned from driving due to getting 12 points for the 900 yards?

[xjay1337]

4rephill said:

300 yards further own the same stretch of road would be a continuation of the same offence, so it would be a single offence.

An unrealistic example, but think about it:

there were 4 cameras on the same stretch of road spaced 300 yards apart (so a total of 900 yards overall), and you broke the speed limit past all 4 cameras, would you really expect to be prosecuted for 4 offences over such a short distance, and end up being banned from driving due to getting 12 points for the 900 yards?

Good question, haven't really thought about it like that.

At what point does it become a seperate offence? Say you are caught on the M4 near Bristol and then near Swindon by 2 seperate camera vans?